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MattTheSkywalker
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 29, 2000 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
I read a little about HGH - which is a topic I don't really know too much about.

I understand that in younger people (20's or so) it can cause internal organs to grow, which can exert pressure which could (stress the could) be harmful.

I also read that it causes bones to grow, and that creates a problem for the skull. Whereas most bones will simply lengthen or enlarge, the skull will grow from the inside.

This will likely place harmful if not deadly pressure on the brain.

Any feedback or comments??? Any HGH experiences?????

Matt

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egoman
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted March 01, 2000 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for egoman   Click Here to Email egoman     Edit/Delete Message
i havn`t tried it but i did read the same thing.i have some friends that have used it with good results and no problems,sorry couldn`t be more help.

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LV 426
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posted March 01, 2000 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LV 426   Click Here to Email LV 426     Edit/Delete Message
do you remember Andre the Giant from the
WWF in the 80's
his skull/body was a good example of his own
body making too much HGH
when i get into 40's i'll be using hgh for
its "legitimate" health benefits
i read in the local paper the other night
that hgh now comes in a depot form
which means fewer injections

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted March 01, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
There are undoubtedly benefits from HGH therapy at an older age, and in a regulated amount.

Many pro bodybuilders are using an amount considerably in excess of what would be used therapeutically.

Wondering what could possibly go wrong - read about the skull exerting pressure on the brain.....

more thoughts/comments/feedback from anyone who has used it or knows more??????

Matt

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chestyII
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posted March 01, 2000 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chestyII   Click Here to Email chestyII     Edit/Delete Message
Did you ever see the pictures of bad hgh use?

Dudes hands grew into like big clubs 5 times larger than the other hand. Nasty. Wonder if they are still around on this board. Was sometime last year.

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giantset
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posted March 01, 2000 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not about to say I know shit about HGH cause it is too expensive and dangerous for me to even consider but I have read about agromegaly(sp?). It is the disease where your body continually produces high levels of growth hormone. It causes deepening of the voice, thickening of the tongue, continual growth of the hands and feet, deformed skull and jaw growth and eventually death. Now if any of these could be side effects of HGH usage/abuse then I do not want anything to do with it. I think that the organ growth problem is more for synthetic IGF-1 due to the fact that organs have more receptors for it than skeletal muscle and therefor have a greater affinity to grow when the synthetic version is introduced. I am by far no expert on the subject but just wanted to throw out my 2 cents on the subject so that the experts might be prompted to come in and set me straight.

Later,
giantset

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100acrewoods
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posted March 01, 2000 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100acrewoods   Click Here to Email 100acrewoods     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30177303
Haven't experienced any of these side-effects. This is my second cycle of gH though. The object is to just do enough to stimulate the production of other growth factors. The only side effects that I am experiencing now are unbelievable pumps and some tendonitis in my elbows. Also doing a-50, d-bol, test and eq.

Will let you know in about 10 more weeks what the outcome is.

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TexFlex
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posted March 01, 2000 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexFlex   Click Here to Email TexFlex     Edit/Delete Message
Your bones won't grow on reasonable dose of GH....unfortunately neither will anything else without heavy androgens and 12.5mcs of t-3. These are the facts.
TF

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the truth
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posted March 01, 2000 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth     Edit/Delete Message
I find that you can get great pumps and continue gaining off AS cycle on 4-6 IU of growth, without any bad sides. Interestingly, the Serostim package insert recommends a daily dose of 10 IU (6 mg GH). This could cause some of the listed effects, and I have seen them on some people (that doctor in Las Vegas who runs a rejuvenation clinic has been taking a little too much of his own medicine; he looks like a gargoyle). If your hands and feet are swelling, cut back on your dose.

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pauly7
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posted March 01, 2000 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauly7   Click Here to Email pauly7     Edit/Delete Message
When I asked my doctor about hgh he told about a bodybuilder patient he had. Whenever he got a x-ray for a possible broken ankle, his bones were solid, the doc said it was amazing, he couldn't check for any cracks at all. He also said the guys forehead had pushed out quite a bit and his ears had grown fairly large. He also said he wouldn't reccomend anyone using it unless they are over 40 and then only in moderate amounts.

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Davidd
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posted March 01, 2000 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Davidd   Click Here to Email Davidd     Edit/Delete Message
I've read a lot on growth and it comes down to this. If your under 40 and using it for muscle growth, you better be rich and don't exceed 2iu's a day for about 12 weeks. Your better off money wise and possibly health wise with regular gear.
I really see the stuff as anti-aging therapy for those of us over 40. It's a great fat burner but really lacks at producing muscle like the claims.The FDA made Serno (Serostim) retract it's claim recently on it's ability to produce muscle mass.Even the 18iu's a day dose for Aid's wasting is a total joke in the medical field.
Do a search on rhgh and read on forever.It's actually called recombinant human growth hormone.Humatrope seems to be the leading brand for bodybuilder's.China has a brand at 4 bucks an iu. coming to the net soon.The average now is $12-$20 dollars per iu.Forty bucks a day is a lot of juice!!

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oversized
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posted March 01, 2000 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oversized   Click Here to Email oversized     Edit/Delete Message
CHESTY I think that i saw that same picture that you did one the web. THe one with the guy that has one huge arm and the other one looked normal. That scared me about HGH. I later read that that the picture was fake and that it was either a computer enhanced picture or it was a picture of someone else's natural birth defect that some guy used and said that HGH did that to him. It was one of the two. Anyways it was just out there to put a scare into people.
Excess bone growth especially in the face is common with abuse of HGH. I have never actually met anyone that used it but form things ive read its only those that really abuse it that experience hardcore negative side effects

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted March 01, 2000 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
I can't blow myself, so I'll just BUMP myself.

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Stickman99
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posted March 03, 2000 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stickman99     Edit/Delete Message
This is why society is so misinformed about all body enancing medications (gear). People rumor-mill what they see on the National Enquirer as facts. HGH is a great product. It allows you to take your gains above and beyond what gear alone can do. By itelf its no better than a fat-loss product and energy booster. But stack it with high androgenic compounds and hang on to your socks. Not because your feet are going to grow like clubs but because of the great gains. Keep posting Enquirer stories and HGH will end up being a class III Controlled substance like gear!!! Find someone who has used it for a while and ask them what they think.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted March 03, 2000 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Stickman,

If you read the first post in the thread, you will see I asked for "comments or suggestions".

Thank you for yours.

Some people have had other experiences. No need to flame anyone for putting something contrary to yours - the people on here are the ones seeking knowledge not spreading misinformation.

Matt

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CyrusTheGreat
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posted March 03, 2000 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CyrusTheGreat   Click Here to Email CyrusTheGreat     Edit/Delete Message
HGH will only turn you into Andre the Giant, if you take it for a long time. Just like taking A-50's everyday for about 5 years might give ya a heart attack.
I believe the proper way to use HGH is everyother day for about 3-4 weeks, that way the only side effects you get are fat loss and the muscle gain (with gear). Amounts..depends on who you ask, your age, how much you weigh..

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big_dan
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posted March 03, 2000 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_dan   Click Here to Email big_dan     Edit/Delete Message

Seriously it is good to read about it but is just way to expensive I read the same article about that disease and did you see those pictures talk about freaks, shit! I also read that for the price th gains are not all that.

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vdevil
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posted March 03, 2000 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message
Do you think the big show may have used hgh?

[This message has been edited by vdevil (edited March 03, 2000).]

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Gobler
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posted March 03, 2000 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gobler   Click Here to Email Gobler     Edit/Delete Message
The only bodybuilder that i met that takes it says he loves the shit, its his favorite. Says he buys it off aids patients that need the money.

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