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abc-29
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posted February 29, 2000 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abc-29   Click Here to Email abc-29     Edit/Delete Message
hey guys, i ran a search and didn't find anything. how can i tell if i'm stressing my liver. i've been taking rest-exe (furinon dy-hydro, which is like gbl) and takeing 400mg test cyp and 400mg deca. my piss is bright yellow. i'm trying to drink more water but should i bail on the gbl?

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E2
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posted February 29, 2000 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Take care of your liver my friend get a liver test done and check you klp and eklp levels.

as well when on anything i take most of these

Standardized silymarin 160 mg + 3x/day

Evening primrose oil 1300 mg 2x/day

Alpha lipoic acid 100 to 200 mg 3x/day

Glycyrrhizinate Forte 1 capsule 3x/day

N-acetyl cysteine 600 mg 3x/day

Glutamine powder 2g to 12g 3x/day (1 heaping teaspoon = 4g, 1 hpg tablespoon = 12 grams)

Omega 3 fatty acids 2 to 3 capsules 3x/day

Lung Tan Xie Gan Chinese herb formula - as directed

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weez
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posted February 29, 2000 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weez   Click Here to Email weez     Edit/Delete Message
Damn E2! What's your bill for supplements run a month?!......never mind the gear.

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E2
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posted February 29, 2000 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
You don't really want to know, and the food kills me too.

It's all about size

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WarLobo
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posted February 29, 2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
Ditto on the liver supplements. Now I don't take all of 'em, and of course a bit extra while on cycle with an oral as they are 17aa.

Most of them do not cost all that much, find a good mail order company and get the big bottles.

And if your worried about cost, you should check out the price of a new liver - if you can find one :p

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christian918
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posted February 29, 2000 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for christian918     Edit/Delete Message
I use a milk thistle blend and take it when I take my multi. Probably not quite as thorough as E2's suggestion though.

-Christian

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Triple H
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posted February 29, 2000 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Triple H   Click Here to Email Triple H     Edit/Delete Message

Get a "liver function test" done. Simple, your doc will take a few cc's of blood and your done. This way you have proof as to what your liver enzymes are doing. It is normal for them to rise during a cycle, but they will return to normal in around 3 to 4 weeks if you are health.

For everyone else out there, I find that this
is a good way to see if I am ready to do another cycle (when my liver enzymes are down
to normal).

Triple H

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Jonrocks
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posted February 29, 2000 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonrocks   Click Here to Email Jonrocks     Edit/Delete Message
Legalon 150 is the drug form, not herbal form of Silymarin. I never used it but I am convinced that the drug form of any chemical is better than the herbal form.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 29, 2000 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
actually isnt that Legalon 150- just an medical extract- ie the European version.
I am not positive but I dont believe that there is any difference.

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instynct999
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posted March 02, 2000 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for instynct999     Edit/Delete Message
Liver protection is important, but his cycle of Deca and Test is relatively benign and should really not tax the liver much at all...now of course, prolonged d-bol, anadrol, or fina/para, halo (and maybe Winny)
require care to be taken

The Silymarin alone I'd think is more than enough

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abc-29
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posted March 02, 2000 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abc-29   Click Here to Email abc-29     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys!

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2Thick
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posted March 02, 2000 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
All you guys should read this! Take care of that liver.

Jon

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