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J.BLAZE
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 27, 2000 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.BLAZE   Click Here to Email J.BLAZE     Edit/Delete Message
I JUST STARTED TAKING DIVIDE DOSES OF 300MG ONE AT 5:00PM AND ONE BEFORE BED TIME.BUT WHEN I TAKE MY TEMP THERE IS NO RAISE, AND I FEEL WARM NOT REALLY HOT AND SWEATY,LIKE I READ ON THE BOARD IN OTHER PEOPLES POSTS. CAN ANYONE GIVE ME ANY INFO ON HOW TO TAKE MORE EFFECTIVELY AND WHAT ELESE TO TAKE WITH IT FOR MY SYSTEM. THANKS BROTHERS....

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el cubano
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posted February 27, 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for el cubano   Click Here to Email el cubano     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 61265596
Are you taking 2 300mg tabs or 150mg per dose? When I take DNP I take 1 300mg tab in the morning and that's it. I don't start sweating til about noon! Remember, you probably shouldn't take more than 500mg per day!

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The Cuban


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biggmack
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posted February 27, 2000 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for biggmack   Click Here to Email biggmack     Edit/Delete Message
should have ordered my manual big-guy!

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 27, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
at 300 mg per day you will not see an incredible temp raise
also it takes while to build up in your system most people do not get hot until day 2 sometimes day 3
at 600mg per day the increase in warmth should be significant-though still not until day 2- profuse sweating and general malaise at times. but the supper hot times are usually only for a couple of hours(2-4hrs) when DNP reaches peak concentrations in your blood

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MP

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 27, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
at 300 mg per day you will not see an incredible temp raise
also it takes while to build up in your system most people do not get hot until day 2 sometimes day 3
at 600mg per day the increase in warmth should be significant-though still not until day 2- profuse sweating and general malaise at times. but the super hot times are usually only for a couple of hours(2-4hrs) when DNP reaches peak concentrations in your blood

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giantset
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posted February 27, 2000 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message
DNP takes a while to become fully effective in your system, but I normally sweat after I take my first dose. Your core temp should not ever rise above about 1.5 degress above your basil temp. DNP does not work by raising your temp and people sometimes OD on DNP because they don't see or feel a rise in temp and then take an overdose trying to get their temp to rise. On my first cycle of DNP I didn't sweat much at all and that was at 400mg a day. I have taken 600mg a day and I sweated alot more. I think as far as fat loss is concerned, 400mg with cardio is just as effective as 600mg and the side effects are not as harsh. If you really want to sweat and see if the DNP is working, take your dose for the day and then eat a couple of twinkies and drink a coke. If that doesn't make you sweat your ass off then something is wrong with you or your DNP. By the way, take your second dose of the day 12 hours after the first dose, and time your first dose 36 hours after your previous first dose of the day. DNP has a half life of at least 36 hours and at 600mg a day, I have sweated beyond the 36 hour mark after my last dose. I think the main thing with DNP is that more is not necessarily better. Take what you can with minimal to moderate side effects and use diet and cardio to make up the rest. You shouldn't lose much muscle doing this. That's why DNP is so beautiful, excellerated fat loss without the muscle loss!

Later,
giantset

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el cubano
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posted February 27, 2000 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for el cubano   Click Here to Email el cubano     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 61265596
Hey Mac, I'd have to disagree with you there. If you get good DNP 300mg per day will make you sweat like a pig, speaking from personal experience of course. But then again everyone is different, which is also another reason you shouldn't tell him 300mg isn't enough. What's not enough for you may be too much for someone else!

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 27, 2000 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
i did not say that it was not enough.

in fact if you have read my other posts I advocate lower dosages with more low intensity cardio.

what I was saying is that off 300mg the level of heat and profuse sweating is considerably less than that of 600mg. of course so is the misery.

BTW 300mg per day ends up being considerably more than 300mg in the system as DNP has a half life of like 10-14hrs (this is a rough estimate) which is why most people feel the effects for up to 36-48hrs after last dosing.


BTW- cubano they miss you over at Rocks board-
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[This message has been edited by macrophage69alpha (edited February 27, 2000).]

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 27, 2000 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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J.BLAZE
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posted February 27, 2000 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.BLAZE   Click Here to Email J.BLAZE     Edit/Delete Message
when I said divided doses I ment 300mg twice a day that equal 600mg totaly. I'm sweating but not like crazy. Thanks for the feed back.

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Tony2
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posted February 27, 2000 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony2   Click Here to Email Tony2     Edit/Delete Message
Hello all!!! Ok why is it the ood time you see a blurp come up on DNP but you really dont hear much about it? I understand it is a fatal drug if taken wrong but what are the other draw backs for the non overdosing sensible person? Can it be mixed in with a cutting cycle for better results? And why do you rarely see sources with it? If there is a source out there get in touch with me I might consider trying some.

Thanks, Tony

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WCP
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posted February 28, 2000 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Im curious to this also...as Im trying to decide if I want to go with Clen...or DNP....fill me in on the dangers of this stuff..Ive read alot on the boards where people say to stay away from it, but you bros are talking like its really nothing.
Info Please?
Later Bros,
WCP

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"the man who can defeat himself, is truly the greatest warrior"

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Joseph_stalin
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posted February 28, 2000 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

the reason you dont start sweating until day 3 is because by day 3 you have 2x the amount of dnp in your system that you had on day 1. the half life is 50% longer than the time we use to redose. It would be better to take 2x your desired dose on days 1 & 2 then 1x on days 3-8.

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BigCatratcho
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posted February 29, 2000 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message
I'm no BiggMack, but

To answer the "should I up the dosage?" question:

NOT YET give it a day or three. Dan Duchaine's writings on it say that dudes who think it's not working and double their dosage START COOKING.

as it builds up in the system you'll start getting hotter.

But as I said before, I ain't no Biggmack, he knows how to use the shit, er stuff.

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danni
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posted February 29, 2000 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for danni     Edit/Delete Message
Ok....I've heard a lot about the dangers of DNP (Hexalon, right?) And I've even been told by my not to take this "fatal" drug, but yet I want it soooooo bad. Is this an illegal drug? Why does it say not intended for human use on the bottle? (They have an article on it in this month's Muscle&Fitness) I'm female, about 5'2" and 145lbs. I want to be about 100-10lbs in 4 months....bikini season. So I really need something that will work quick & efficiently. The only thing I'm concerned with is A)cooking to death before I get to wear my bikini and B)side effects
Are the side effects anyhting major? I can deal with sweating...what about stomache pains/vomiting...that I can't deal with AT ALL!
Where can I get this drug, fast, quick and easily?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me.....thanks soooo much!
Danielle
PS email me: [email protected]

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J.BLAZE
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posted February 29, 2000 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.BLAZE   Click Here to Email J.BLAZE     Edit/Delete Message
yo first of all girls can go blind from it I heard, or do damage to their eyes so I dont recomend it to females, but as for me I want to take it for longer then one week whats the deal I know its not recomended but what if I drop the dose can I do a two week cycle. By the way todays the fifth day and im so hot and sticky my nuts are sticking to my leg I cant sleep due to such uncomfortableness and waking up to a sweaty mess im also very sore and stiff in the morning. So far I droped five pounds already

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giantset
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posted March 01, 2000 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message
J. Blaze, for the sleeping problem take 3mg of Melatonin and it should help. Also turn your ceiling fan on high! I have talked to people that have used 200mg for two weeks and lost increadible amounts(up to 20 pounds). I have not used the two week method because the longer you are on DNP the lower your T3 levels drop and the more likely you are to lose mucle or gain some back. I have had great success with 8 days on and 4 to 5 days off with high carbs on the days off. You can easily lose 5 or more pounds of fat during these 8 days at a moderate dosage 4 to 5mg/kg of bodyweight. By the way, I think that staying on for over 8 days pushes your chances of dehydration. Even at 8 days on while using glycerol and taurine I still can tell I am becoming dehydrated. Just keep hitting the 8 day cycles until you get to your desired bodyweight.

About women using DNP, the percentage of women getting cataracts in the general public is greater than percentage of women that developed cataracts in the DNP case study so I am not sure that there is any corollation between DNP usage in women and development of catacts. You can protect yourself from the possiblility of developing cataracts by using antioxidents like vit A,C, and E, selenium and lipoic acid and using pyruvate during the DNP cycle.

Later,
giantset

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 01, 2000 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I agree with Giantset on this one.
the cataracts deal with women is beleived to be a spurious correllation. But keep the anti-oxident levels high any way because the increase in metabolism alone will generate a huge # of free radicals.

though with regards to t-3, I actually believe that the more active thyroid that you have during DNP use the more muscle you will burn- which is why I never reccomend taking thyroid with DNP- levels of thyroid in the blood is what I mean.

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J.BLAZE
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posted March 01, 2000 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.BLAZE   Click Here to Email J.BLAZE     Edit/Delete Message
AS FOR STAYING ON FOR TWO WEEKS. I ONLY HAVE 200MG CAPS. HOW SHOULD I DOSE THIS.

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danni
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posted March 01, 2000 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for danni     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, so I won't go blind...that's great! But are there any other side effects. Where can I get it. I'm from NJ, any suggestions? What dosage should I start out on, I'm 5'2 1/2", 143 lbs, I want to be 110. How long should I do the cycle for? How much total weight can I lose from this drug? When everyone says DNP...do you mean Hexalon....or is it strictly DNP?

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Davidd
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posted March 01, 2000 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Davidd   Click Here to Email Davidd     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone with a legit DNP source, please e-mail me.
Thanks

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SCHNiKEN
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posted March 01, 2000 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
I would also appreciate a legit dnp source

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giantset
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posted March 01, 2000 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message
That's a real good point macro. Do you think then that a longer cycle, which would lower t3 even further, would help preserve muscle? My only concern is a rebound of fat gain when ceasing DNP usage due to the low t3 levels. Perhaps one could go two to three weeks on and then use t3 for a couple of days. Do you think, however, that the use of t3 at the end of the cycle would only further suppress t3 production in the thyroid?

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danni
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posted March 01, 2000 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for danni     Edit/Delete Message
That's exactly what I'm worried about-reboiunding fat gain!. Right now I take Metabolic Thyrolean from Prolab, but I really wanna go on DNP. On average, how much, or what's the maxuim amount of weight you can lose on a normal cycle?

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danni
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posted March 03, 2000 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for danni     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Formula
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posted March 03, 2000 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Formula   Click Here to Email Formula     Edit/Delete Message
Danni,

I think for women the risk out weigh the benefit but that's just M/O. I would just get some clen and go on a low carb diet first and see what happens. Where in NJ are you(south, east) I'm up north. Clen is not as fast but much safer for women. Do cardi 4day a week for at leat 1/2 hours. I the morning would be the best time without any breakfast. Good Luck

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danni
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posted March 03, 2000 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for danni     Edit/Delete Message
I'm up north also. Why do you feel that way about the risks...is there any different hgealth risks for women? Where in NJ are you? I don't eat carbs....right now I'm basically living on fat free yogurt, ice pops-sugar free, and egg whites

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danni
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posted March 03, 2000 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for danni     Edit/Delete Message
bump, bump

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