posted February 25, 2000 11:18 PM            

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To all of you out there who have been reading my relpys and posts, here is a little something more. I am 5'9",186lbs. right now, I am a hard gainer, and pretty lean. I have been taking Hydroxycut the past 3 weeks and doing alot of cardio. Now I have started my next cycle with t200 and nor200. It is friday, on monday I took 150 of test and 150 of Deca, everyone that knows what I am doing instantly said tonight,"Your face is getting fatter." I can feel it too, under my eyes and my cheeks. Just wanted to let everyone know my experiences. I don't want to take my proviron yet, and don't want to take novadex yet either. But I am wondering if I should take anything else to loose this water on my face or just f--K it, and grow and hope that the little clomid and proviron I have will take care of it in a couple of months when I go off. Ohh, and by the way I will end this cycle with eq.(Maxi) Hopefully with some deca still.

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posted February 25, 2000 11:43 PM            

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Are you saying you only took 3/4 of a cc of each ? If so, why ?
As you said, your friends that "KNOW" you are on are making this comment. Think about it, do you honestly think in 4 days they can tell a difference ?

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posted February 26, 2000 06:26 PM            

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Yes, 3/4cc of each. Because they are 200mg per cc ea. I am just starting this week and next week I will take this amount twice a week, mon and thurs. I believe that 300mg a week of each will be plenty with 1 week in the middle of cycle with 400mg of each.

I feel like my face is getting fatter. I even asked people who have no idea what I am on and whey even said my face was getting fatter. Maybe it is just a placebo. I just know that I don't work out all of the time to have a fat face.

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posted February 26, 2000 09:19 PM            

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Maybe the T200 is causing you to hold a little water, although that is pretty fast. I would not sweat it. T200 and Nor200 are a good mild cycle, and you should not hold too much water. Keep us posted. Oh yea gyno is very unlikely at the low doses you are talking about

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posted February 27, 2000 12:34 AM         

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I can relate bro. the test. always makes my face look like a tire. i know guys that pump 3 times what i would ever and look like dudley doright. ive tried the water route, but it never worked till off. live with it cause the returns are well worth it!-MZ

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posted February 27, 2000 03:54 AM         

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i puff up overnight on the reforvit, and within a week or two on t200...
but, i think your problem has also to do with the diuretics in the hydroxycut... guarana is a diuretic and since your system is knocking water out, its at the same time pulling in and retaining what ever it can... drink up son, drink up.
anyway, its only a fat face... big deal

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posted February 27, 2000 02:09 PM            

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3/4 Test. 200. That is not even a therapeutic dosage! I am baffled on how that kind of dosage could promote water rentention, ecspecially in your face! That's crazy shit man. GOOD LUCK!

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posted February 27, 2000 03:07 PM            

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your dosages seem very low....so I wonder about water retension..I know everyone is different, but I don't retain all that much water and i have been up to 1500 mg of testo a week while taking 60 mg of d-bol a day..seems weird that you are retaining water at the low of a dosage....might just be you imagination, and you friends bustin you balls...

big-guy

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posted February 27, 2000 05:18 PM            

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i agree with much of what has been said so far. Honestly I think that a lot of it is in your head and worried friends.

well anyways here is one sure fire way to check
take a picture of yourself today
then a week from now,then the next week etc... and compare the photos. trust me the camara won't lie! good luck and train hard

oversized

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posted February 27, 2000 06:02 PM            

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Thanks for the replies. If I can keep a solid 10lbs off this cycle, it just may be the last one I do for a while, because I think I am getting satisfied with my size for now. Next, I don't think I will be able to compete for a while after doing the deca. I was planning on doing some contests this summer, because all I really need to do is loose this fat face and just a tad off the rest. Like I said early, I am a very lean and muscular person. Just before christmas, my face was pretty thin and only if I can get it back.
It is amazing how soon the water retention took place isn't it.
If anybody has competed after being on deca share with me the time you had to wait or if you know someone who has. I know everyone says 12-18months, depending on how much and your size. I was just wondering if anyone on here can verify this. thanks

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posted February 27, 2000 09:57 PM            

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Anybody have any suggestions?

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