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HARDBALL2
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posted February 25, 2000 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HARDBALL2   Click Here to Email HARDBALL2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63941927
hEY GUYS, I START MY SEASON IN 5 DAYS. IN THE PAST I'D BUST MY BALLS IN THE OFF-SEASON TO GET BIG AND STRONG, THEN DURING THE SEASON, I WOULDN'T LIFT AN BE PUNY AGAIN. PLEAE KEEP IN MIND THAT I PLAY ALMOST EVERYOTHER DAY SO SHOULD I KEEP THE REPS HIGH AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 2-3 DAYS A WEEK? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!

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HARDBALL2
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posted February 26, 2000 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HARDBALL2   Click Here to Email HARDBALL2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63941927
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charlieman
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posted February 26, 2000 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlieman   Click Here to Email charlieman     Edit/Delete Message
I used to lift and play ball in high school. When I didn't pitch, I could use my regular routine. Three days a week, mon/wed/fri.
Mon: Chest,tris,abs
Wed: Shoulders/back/bis
Fri: Legs

I didn't play as often as you, so you may not have enough recovery time. A lot of the pros lift heavy during the season, so I guess it varies. Good luck.

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Tim_Couch
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posted February 26, 2000 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim_Couch     Edit/Delete Message
Don't change anything. Lift as hard and as heavy as you did previous to the season. Anything you hear about not lifting heavy in-season is only a myth. McGwire still trains the same amount.

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Heemaan445
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posted February 26, 2000 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
whats up Hardball..!?!

well, progressive weightlifting and baseball do NOT mix.....yes you should lift during the season, but only to maintain your "optimal" level achieved during the off-season....McGwire is NOT bulking up during the season, he works his ass off in the off-season, adjusts his body to the game, and maintains it throughout....

Flexibility and range of motion are key...believe me....I deserved to play AAA baseball and hit the weights hard thinking it would help me get there, but it only screwed me, baseball is an unorthodox motion to the body, tell me..?...what will benching 400 lbs help u to do in baseball....or curling 225...?....nothing....

U need to work on the rotator cuff and for hitting legs,stomach and back....

I know u want to look good during the season, but u'r definitely gonna have to make a choice here.....u cant be too big and play !!!

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Deepsquat
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posted February 26, 2000 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
I would train chest, back ,thighs, and calf, 3 times a week 3-5 sets per bodypart. Once a week throw in a set or to for shoulders and arms. You should be able to maintain most of your size and strength this way and not always feel worn out. These workouts should take about 45-60 minutes.Stick with basic movements(doing leg extensions 3 times week won't help you keep your size.)But if you intermix squats, front squats, legpress and hacks, then you will keep your size, motivation,and strength in your legs. I know on the surface this doesn't sound like much, but lets face it you are going to be dog tired a lot of the time so this will prevent you from overtraining(which will be easy to do , considering you basebasll workouts.Good luck, if you take my advice and 21 years of experiance then you will be thanking me at the end of summer,if not....well you will end up like the other years too tired to train.

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Tim_Couch
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posted February 27, 2000 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim_Couch     Edit/Delete Message
I'll tell you what benching 400 lbs. is going to do for you, it's going to give you a huge mental edge. Baseball, in my opinion is more than 90% mental. If you're standing in the box and you see some skinny bastard on the mound, you're going to think you own this guy, and you're going to pound him. I'm telling you, if you cut back on the weight training in-season, the first time you get jammed and the shortstop makes a leaping catch, you're going to question whether your cutbacks in the weight room caused that. This will start a downward spiral. I know from experience. What these guys are saying, that flexibility is a must, and all of these things, this was the prevelant thinking years ago. These ideals are going by the wayside in baseball. Pitchers are the guys that shoudln't lift. That's why offense is exploding. Hitters are realizing that they can weight train as much as they want, but the pitchers can't keep up.

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HARDBALL2
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posted February 27, 2000 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HARDBALL2   Click Here to Email HARDBALL2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63941927
thanks guys for the help....i think i'm going to just hit it hard 2-3 time a week! mon- chest, tri's, abs, light rotator cuff. wednesday- back, bi's, legs. fri- everything, just for reps....how does this sound?


GET HUGE AND DROP BOMBS!!!!

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Heemaan445
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posted February 27, 2000 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Couch, u better stick with football...he he he....just bustin' your balls

If its a "mental" edge one seeks, there are self-confidence tapes and other strategies in getting there...I agree that confidence is a large part of everything, but being a great weightlifter isnt going to make you a great baseball player.

Bench presses dont aid in anything for baseball, the exercise actually works against the body and will shorten your swing and slow the velocity down on your throws....

I'm all for weight-training during the season and off, but there are limits and strict guidelines for each position. ( a pitchers workout differs from a catchers )

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100mph
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posted February 27, 2000 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100mph   Click Here to Email 100mph     Edit/Delete Message
hardball, you need to maintain your strength during the season. You are already breaking down your muscles just by playing every other day. If you lift hard throughout the season you might end up on the training table with an injury. I play in the minors, they put us on a program of two days on two days off. Hitting chest, tri's, shoulders 2 exercises for each body part and for 3sets with higher repetitions12-15 to maintain strength, NOT!! bbuild strength!!! On the second day your hitting back, bi's and legs the same # of ex. and sets and reps. Remember: you can even cut back even more w/ shoulders and legs. DON'T OVERTRAIN!!!

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oversized
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posted February 27, 2000 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oversized   Click Here to Email oversized     Edit/Delete Message
hardball
i would suggest that you hit those rotater cuff muscles in every workout
If you have access to the Thera-Bands get them. Rotator cuff muscle is a small one that is often neglected.
use them for all of your shoulder exercises
ie. internal and external rotation
and so on
utilize front raises and lateral raises.
(Note: when doing your shoulder exercises to get that little rotator cuff really working keep your shoulders depressed and retracted. The Rationalle behind this is that if you elevate your shoulders your traps take over a majority of the stabilzing mechanism by pulling the humorus up into the rotator cuff. Just some stuff ive learned in shoulder rehab hope it helps) Keep training during baseball , especially legs, abs, back, and shoulders. Remember flexibility is a must so good luck this year.

oversized

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Tim_Couch
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posted February 28, 2000 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim_Couch     Edit/Delete Message
I would tend to disagree with the statement that bench press does nothing for baseball. Benching is an explosive excersise, and the swing is nothing but a controlled explosion. Yes, weight lifting is going to make the swing shorter, which is exactly what you want. All I'm saying is that this is my opinion. I have trained hard though 4 yrs. of college and two in the minors, and it's been great for me so far.

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