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DellBear
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 25, 2000 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DellBear     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Bros,
I have a "friend" who is about to do his first cycle. He was only able to get 10 amps each of Primobolan Depot & Deca and about 50 tabs of 25mg Clomid. He is 5"11 and weighs 228 with 20% bodyfat. He gains lean mass very easily naturally and has been training for about a year. How would you suggest that he use his limited supply of gear for gaining some lean mass and cutting the bodyfat %? Sorry for being so long winded, I just wanted to give you the detailed info. Thanks.

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airtyme
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posted February 25, 2000 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for airtyme   Click Here to Email airtyme     Edit/Delete Message
What are the mgs of the deca and primo? Also, do you have 10 of each or 10 total?
Not to flame you bro, but to get specific answers, we need specific info. And what does your clomid look like. The only 25mg clomid that I know are blue/white capsules.

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DellBear
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posted February 25, 2000 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DellBear     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, forgot to list the that the 10amps of Primo and 10 amps of Deca are both 100mgs. The Clomid is blue/white in color.

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DellBear
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 25, 2000 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DellBear     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP.

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DellBear
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posted February 25, 2000 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DellBear     Edit/Delete Message
Bump

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Joseph_stalin
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posted February 25, 2000 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

supposedly if you use only primo on your first cycle you will permanently keep the gains it gives you. If that is true, then i would only use the primo. then buy some test or dianabol and use that with the deca for a second cycle. I don't know how true that primo thing is though.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted February 25, 2000 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

supposedly if you use only primo on your first cycle you will permanently keep the gains it gives you. If that is true, then i would only use the primo. then buy some test or dianabol and use that with the deca for a second cycle. I don't know how true that primo thing is though. You'd probably have to ask around.

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the truth
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posted February 26, 2000 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Two recommendations:

If you're at 20%BF, diet some of the fat off first. Go w/ a good fat loss diet, do clen, 2wks on/ 1 wk off, then 3 minicycles of 1 wk on/ 1 wk off, then switch to ephedrine/caffeine and T3 for a month. Train hard and do a little cardio. While you're doing this, get some more gear and plan a cycle. Perhaps some Sust to stack w/ Deca in the beginning, then add Primo while tapering and end on Primo alone. You'll need a bit more Primo as well, as you should be doing at least 400 mg for a few weeks when adding it to your cycle, then taper down to 200 if you want. Yeah, the gains are permanent, but it's not a terribly strong drug, and yeah, it has been shown to build lean muscle mass while on a low calorie diet, but it's not diet magic. Get your BF down and then try to make some lean gains on cycle w/out adding fat weight; this will lower your BF even further. After a couple of cycles like this, you'll be lean and have a decent amount of mass, so you can go on a bulking cycle.

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Still Growing
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posted February 26, 2000 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still Growing     Edit/Delete Message
The reason why you keep most of your primo-gains, is because the gains are so small that it's easier to keep them.

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