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Joe Juicer
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 192)
posted February 24, 2000 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Juicer   Click Here to Email Joe Juicer     Edit/Delete Message
Based on what you all have seen of my physique, does anyone have an exercise tips or workout schedules that they think I might benefit from?

Right now I'm doing...
M - front and side delts/tris
W - back/rear delts
F - chest/bis
Sun - legs

Should I reprioritize/shuffle anything? Just curious if anyone has strong feelings about ways I migth be able to change my routine around to better my physique based on what you saw in the pics.

Old thread is at https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003402.html

Thanks again for all the encouragement! I'll keep everyone up to date on the rest of my cycle and my effort to keep the gains once I go clean.

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BigPapaPump
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posted February 24, 2000 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigPapaPump   Click Here to Email BigPapaPump     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39254017
I think you've made some great progress. I'd question why you split up your delts. You're back will grow in time. Keep your routine basic and simple. When you start to get fancy...you blow it. Don't forget those calves and the most over looked and under trained part...the forearms.

You also mentioned back problems....don't over look the fact that you may be straining the kidneys. Are you hydrated enough ?

Keep up the good work.

BPP

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egoman
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 24, 2000 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for egoman   Click Here to Email egoman     Edit/Delete Message
you could try chest/tris/bis-back/lats-delts front/rear/side-legs,yea and forarms/traps-its good to mix it up every now and then also.like papa said try not to get to fancy just yet.oh yea and keep the poundage up.keep bending the bar.

[This message has been edited by egoman (edited February 24, 2000).]

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Jonrocks
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posted February 25, 2000 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonrocks   Click Here to Email Jonrocks     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Joe you asked what you could do for trap/lat development.

First I would sugest that if you aren't, start doing Chins/Pullups. Add weight so that you can do 4 X 8. I would do traps on the same day. The traps have 3 functions, Elevating, Depressing, and Retracting the shoulder blades. If you do shrugs you are only working the traps for elevation. Shurgs are good for traps. Try doing them with dumbells and instead of just shruging your shoulders continue the pull with your arms to about 4 inches above your waist... almost like a partial upright row. Your traps will burn! When you do rows, wheater with a cable or dumbell/barbell, try retracting your shoulder blades hard during the mid point of the lift. You will stress the middles fibers of the traps. Last when you do chins/pullups make sure that you get full extension of the arms. When you do and start to pull yourself up you depress the scauplue getting trap fiber activation. If you work the trap with these diffrent pulls you will get full, dense trap development.

On an added note, good job on your quad development. Hope this advice helps, keep us posted.

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Jonrocks
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posted February 25, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonrocks   Click Here to Email Jonrocks     Edit/Delete Message
I understand why you split your shoulders up, but you should work the front and middle delts the same day as chest. As you know you really stress the front delts with any pressing movement. If you do presses and a seprated front delt day you are surely going to overtrain the muscle. The front delts are also slightly stressed when you do barbell or dumbell curls. I too like to train biceps on chest day... if gives a great pump in the arms. It is good to hit the arms twice a week they recover fast. I would split the workout like this...

Chest/Bis/Front & mid delt
Legs/Torso
Back/Tris/Rear delt

or if you like a 4 day split...

Chest/Deadlifts (everyother chest workout)
Arms/Shoulders
Legs/Torso
Back/Traps

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Joe Juicer
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posted February 25, 2000 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Juicer   Click Here to Email Joe Juicer     Edit/Delete Message
quote:

Chest/Bis/Front & mid delt
Legs/Torso
Back/Tris/Rear delt

This looks like a good split, and your argument for putting delts on chest day is pretty sound. I'm a little worried about my tris still being sore on chest day. The usually take 3 days to recover after a tough workout.

To make the situation that much trickier, I also end up getting sore in my lats after chest day. I "puff" them out at the bottom of my pressing movements to help get the weight going which then makes them sore the couple next days. It's not something I can control too well.

When you say "torso" do you mean abs?

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Jonrocks
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posted February 25, 2000 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonrocks   Click Here to Email Jonrocks     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, torso means abs and lower back. On leg day I usally do this...

In the morning I sprint,

6 sets of 40 yard (intervaled with 30 sec jogging between sprints)
4 sets of 50 yard
2 sets of 100 yard

Later afternoon...

Let Extension 3 X 10 (with leg extension one set toes pointed up, one set toes pointed in, and one set toes pointed out)
Front Squat 12,10,6,6,6,4
Stiff Legged Deadlift 4 X 8
Leg Curls 4 X 8
Hanging Leg Raises 3 X 12
Decline Situps 3 X 12

The reason there is a sperate day for the torso is that if you train your abs everday or like some people not at all, you will have flat abs. If you tarin them like you do your other muscles you get those deep etches in your abs. I also do cable crunches on chest day for a total of 2 traing days on abs with wieghts.

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Jonrocks
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posted February 25, 2000 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonrocks   Click Here to Email Jonrocks     Edit/Delete Message
That puff that you talk about during chest exercises is suppose to happen. Thats just you retracting your scauple and forcfully exhaling as your press the weight. Just make sure you are not arching your back. Your lats, more so your mid back, stablize your scapule when pressing. They say if you want real strong contractions druing pressing, you should do a single set of antagonistic muscles, in this case, seated cable rows.

With the problem in the split you should have rest days between workouts...

back/tris
legs/torso
--rest--
chest/bis/shoulders
--rest--

If you aren't recovering soon enough in your arms, then train tris with chest, and bis with back. Or if you want to try it, don't do arms at all.. I will tell you, I hardly have a separte arm day. I have 18" arms drug free and hardly do any isolation arm work. I do A LOT of weighted chins and A LOT of weighted dips. I get the best pump in my bis form close grip chins, and awesome pumps in my tris from the dips. If time permits I will do some extras for my arms, like barbell curls or decline tri extensions. Once every 3 weeks I will dedicate one workout to arms and shoulders, thats about it. I feel that I have developed pretty good arm girth doing this.

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bignate73
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posted February 25, 2000 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message
ive found that my back is the hardest part to get going as well. if i really concentrate on the movements and making my back do the work and not my arms (think of my hands as just hooks) i get a tremendous pump. not sure if i should trade off weight for feeling though. im watching this post closely cause joe and I have similar frames.good job bro so far. peace

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flexed1
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posted February 25, 2000 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flexed1   Click Here to Email flexed1     Edit/Delete Message
I will throw something really diferent out. As like you I am getting ready for a show (13 weeks out) I really don't change the routine. Its 6 days a week heavy weights 6-10 reps and since I only work the part once a week I work until i lose the pump hitting every differt angle of the muscle.

mon: Chest
Tues: Legs
Wed: Back
Th: Shoulders
Fr; Bic/ tri
Sat: Hamstrings

Even though I am losing weight and bodyfat i have maintained muscle mass and my strength is still very good. You may want to give it a try an dif you follow the routine hard you will see you need a week to rest before hitting the parts again.

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LARGE women love it
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posted February 26, 2000 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LARGE women love it   Click Here to Email LARGE women love it     Edit/Delete Message
mon- chest/bis
tue- legs

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LARGE women love it
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posted February 26, 2000 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LARGE women love it   Click Here to Email LARGE women love it     Edit/Delete Message
mon-chest/bis
tue-legs

thu-shou/calfs
fri-back/tri

abs after every workout

LARGE

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