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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 24, 2000 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
anyone here have experience with depression stemming from a anabolics only cycle- primo, deca, anavar?

Primo57 question sparked a thought that such anabolics only cycles might cause depression.

This is not to say that other androgens do not cause depression/mood swings, it seems evident that they do especially those that convert to heavily to estrogen or act as strong progestins. I think that this might also be common on Dbol only cycles, anadrol only cycles, suspension only cycles- kind of odd how all these are associated with roid rage and large mood swings.

any thoughts or comments?
personal experiences?

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conan69
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posted February 24, 2000 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
i got really depressed when i came off and lost like a lot of weight and got weak
but that is why there is always another cycle

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 24, 2000 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
Conan your response is quite common
post cycle androgen levels are low
estrogen levels are high
this is a sure recipe for depression in males
clomid will help- got to get test levels back up and stave off estrogenic binding- I am not sure How clomid acts with respect to estrogen binding within the central nervous system- hmm. another interesting aspect.


BTW-in females the effect is the same with higher than normal estrogen levels with lower than normal test makes them depressed PMS is a relatively good example- though slightly more complicated and involving a couple of other hormonal factors

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always02
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posted February 24, 2000 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for always02   Click Here to Email always02     Edit/Delete Message
anti-depressants help me. after i finish a cycle, i usually start on serzone, which is the best one out there, no sex side effects, and i never feel depressed, try it.

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E2
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posted February 25, 2000 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
The only thing that has given me depression or feeling down was winny, i just don't take it anymore. Don't like it. Made me cry for no reason, i'd watch a movie and i'd start to cry. I don't need that.

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madbomber31
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posted February 25, 2000 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
i suffered very bad depression for quite a few months this last summer.. i would say from july to november... i was off juice since march of last year till november.. notice the depression ceased as a started juicing again.... strange, it seems i suffered an opposite type depression... now i am worried to get off for a while

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Bigger A
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posted February 25, 2000 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bigger A   Click Here to Email Bigger A     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54140431
I have something to say on this subject. It is strictly personal opinion though, but on a cycle of test and deca right now, and I have been feeling down and tired alot. When I go to the gym I am like an animal. I just have to have some extra motiv. When I come home from work I just want to take a nap and I slept 9hrs the night before. I can jump up from a short nap and murder my work out partners in the gym. Whenever I am done with this cycle I will definitely hit some Hydroxycut hard. I figure this will get things going all day non-stop, it has worked before. Strang thing to say, but when I worked at naturally I never felt this before. But the gains now are much more visible to everyone around me, so I don't think I will give up on the juice.

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egoman
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posted February 25, 2000 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for egoman   Click Here to Email egoman     Edit/Delete Message
think about it?mood swings,estrogen levels up,sounds like a woman.thats why we have anti estrogen stuff!no more crying,mood swings,just burps and farts.

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phiend
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posted February 25, 2000 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phiend     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63040172
EQ tends to make me a bit depressed, but when I am in the gym I feel great. I heard that vet roids cause depression, but this could have been incorrect.

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Bigger A
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posted February 25, 2000 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bigger A   Click Here to Email Bigger A     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54140431
Only if it were just as easy to go and pick up some antiestrogen stuff whenever you need it!! Sometimes you just have to take what you can get and go on. Supplies are not that abundant in my area, or atleast I don't know these people because I don't tell everyone what I am doing.

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flexed1
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posted February 25, 2000 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flexed1   Click Here to Email flexed1     Edit/Delete Message
Kind of the opposite. When i go off i feel fine but when i start the first 11 days or so i get very depressed, over emotional, and pissed at everyone i know. than i am fine

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