posted February 24, 2000 03:47 PM            

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I am on my first cycle. week2of sust250. I shot 250 first week and 500 this week. I am getting 100 d-bol today. How should I most effectively throw the d-bol in. I have read you should use d-bol at the start of the cycle.But obviously I can't now. How should I cycle the two?
My sust cycle
week 1 250mg
week 2 500mg
week 3 500mg
week 4 500mg
week 5 500mg
week 6 500mg
week 7 250mg
I can get more sust if I need it. I don't want to get to crazy because I don't know yet how prone I am to gyno and I have read d-bol is prone to the normal side effects. Thanks for any replies!

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posted February 24, 2000 03:57 PM            

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hey..no need to taper up in the beginning....that is useless...start off at like 750 mg, then drop to 500 mg for a couple weeks, then hit 250 your last week..my first cycle was omna and went like this-750, 500, 500, 500, 250...

big-guy

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posted February 24, 2000 04:05 PM            

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Hey, my bad I was making suggestions on the cycle, some how read over that you already shot the first shot, why not add the d-bol, you are only in week two, carry the d-bol at 30-40 mg a day, should help gains a lot...

big-guy

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posted February 24, 2000 04:33 PM            

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How long should I take the d-bol? Should I taper it down? I've read that you will probablt lose mose of your gains on d-bol, lots of water, since im already on sust this should help right? Should I take all 100 d-bols on this cycle? Thanks for any help!

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posted February 24, 2000 05:32 PM            

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posted February 24, 2000 08:24 PM            

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Yup,
I'd start at 30 or 40 mg's a day...half in the morning...half in the evening. Taper down from there. If you have it, you could take 50mg's of Clomid EOD, it would help with water, and natural test levels. You'll see some nice gains on this, I'd use all 100 tabs, and then some....!

Ranger

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posted February 25, 2000 12:23 AM            

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What does EOD mean after Clomid? End of Cycle? Anybody body else got any ideas?

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posted February 25, 2000 12:55 AM         

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two things.. EOD is every other day..
as for the dbol suggestion i agree that you can just throw it in now, it wont hurt... but you havent used it before? dont use as much as you were just told... you will get good gains from 20-30mg a day... and divide it up into three doses... dbol has a short halflife, (3 hours or so) so to get an even level in the system you gotta take it a few times through the day... water wont be too bad at 20mg a day, and you will still make very good gains... more is not necessarily better... it is toxic, and in my mind a hardcore drug (at least compared to most)

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posted February 25, 2000 09:46 AM            

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Thanks for the reply madbomber!

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posted February 25, 2000 11:35 AM            

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wait 7 days after your last shot of sustenon. then take 350 mg clomid on day one, and 350 on day 2. then take 100 mg a day for 12 more days.

100 dianabol isn't very much for a cycle. it might be helpful in reducing catabolism post-cycle. take 2 pills when you wake up, and 2 more 4 hours later. no more the whole day. Start taking it the last week of cycle that way and do that for 4 weeks.
so if you have an 8 week cycle, weeks 7-11 take 10 mg dianabol when you wake up, and 10 mg 4 hours later. don't take anymore throughout the day as it will inhibit test production. you can probably use it in conjunction with the clomid as dosing like that will not inhibit testosterone production.

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posted February 25, 2000 11:55 AM            

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Thanks for the reply. That is very interesting. Does anybody else agree with this? So you are saying that I should wait until the end of my cycle to take the d-bol?

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posted February 25, 2000 12:56 PM         

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no offense... but HELL NO!!!! dbol KILLS your natural test production... a sentence in the WAR that always will stick out with me is 10mg of dbol a day for 2 weeks shut down test production by 30%.... thats 2 tabs, and only two weeks... clomid aint gonna combat that enough... and imagine what taking more then 10mg will do to ya.

if anyone tries this, let me know how it goes... and if you shrink or not.... i'd be interested

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posted February 25, 2000 01:09 PM            

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take dbol only 2x a day. once when you wake up and again 4 hours later most likely will not affect test production. Your body will recover its test production sufficiently by the time you redose the next morning. you won't be continually on. so test production won't be affected.

the clomid thing is about half-lives. clomid is destroyed at a rate of 16% a day. so taking 6x the normal dose on day one and 1x the amount on every other day will keep a continous amount in the body at all times. the amount that is broken down will be equal to the amount that is coming in.

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posted February 25, 2000 01:45 PM            

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So what does everyone think? 10mg per day for 2 weeks or 20mg per day for 4 weeks(7-11). These are two totally different ideas?
Thanks for all the replies!

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posted February 25, 2000 05:41 PM            

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try 20mg a day for 4 weeks. 10 mg when you wake up and 10 mg 4 hours later. It might be a good end cycle move as dianabol is anti-catabolic, ie it will prevent muscle breakdown, which is a problem directly after a cycle. Clomid and dbol should work together to prevent catabolism.

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posted February 25, 2000 09:17 PM            

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How long after my cycle are you saying I should take it. By the way I am having a real hard time getting clomid so I will probably have to go with out. Does that change anything. Thanks for all the help everyone! Should I take the d-bol on a day when I don't workout?

[This message has been edited by pauly7 (edited February 25, 2000).]

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posted February 26, 2000 01:09 AM            

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im just about to do something like the same cycle you are, I as well only have 100 tabs of dbol but I have 15, 250ml of sustanon and 30ml/mg of finaplix. I was told to use the dbol the 3rd week in first week 3x7,second week 4x7 third week 5x7 fourth week 5x7, not sure if the dbol is enough? keep pumping dude

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posted February 26, 2000 01:23 AM            

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I think you should forget about the D-Bol for this cycle and concentrate on the Sus. You will get a kick in two weeks from the Sus anyway. I would do 750mg of Sus during week 4 and keep everything else the same. If you can, you should try to find (if you can) some Primobolan for the end of the cycle to help solidify your gains.

Jon

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posted February 26, 2000 02:07 AM            

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Thanks for the replies dickie and 2thick. Does anyone else believe I should just trash the d-bol for this cycle?

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posted February 26, 2000 06:51 AM            

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if you don't have clomid or hcg you can't really do a good cycle. you will lose all your muscle at the end. ask sbc for some clomid. email someone for his address.

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posted February 26, 2000 04:50 PM            

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Who is sbc? Thanks for the reply!

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