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Bounc
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 24, 2000 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bounc   Click Here to Email Bounc     Edit/Delete Message
Uneductaed and stupid I decided to get some of the tablets 2 weeks ago, No knowing I was supposed to take the dosages a certain way and build up, well I have been taken 1 pill a day for 2 weeks now...and im getting strong and huge... The question is, I only have like 5 weeks left..A friend told me i will encounter severe joint pains after I finish the cycle.. and lay off of it.
Kinda spooked by it cause i been getting some elbow aches lately..dont know ether it is the elbow or a pinch nerve in my back..but never the less...I know now to take it easy on the weights..cause you can serious hurt yourself..you dont realize your strengh. Bottomline should I continue this...quit it?, Or can someone reccommend the proper dosage to use to complete the 5 weeks i have left.. So I can end the cycle properly and not adbrupt. also besides drinking alot of water is there anything else I should really do, to assist my body in the healing, and sparing the liver any damage...I was supposed to leave to miami in 4 weeks, and someone mentioned i couldnt drink when i was down there...cause of this stuff..I could risk serious injuries..True or False.....Helppppp!

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Primo57
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posted February 24, 2000 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo57   Click Here to Email Primo57     Edit/Delete Message
Bro, I would never take oxymeth for more than
4 weeks! Start your taper ASAP and get some Clomid and probably some Nolvadex!

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Joseph_stalin
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posted February 24, 2000 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

hes probably right. i don't think that you will gain that much more strength and size in 5 more weeks. if you stop and taper then do another 2-4 week anadrol cycle you will get as large as you would if you went 5 more weeks with this cycle, but there will be fewer side effects. You will probably keep the muscle a little longer as well.
You might want to combine the anadrol with a testosterone. that is said to balance out some of its bad effects. winstrol also balances some of anadrol's bad effects. test helps keep gains and stabalize mood, and winstrol helps prevent anadrol from increasing the amount of progesterone.

So that is my advise. But to be fair it is based on logic, not real life scenarios. go off, then do a 2-4 week cycle of test and/or winstrol with your anadrol. you might get too strong for your own good and rip some muscles and tendons if you keep using right now. i don't know if that is what is causing the joint pain, the fact that your muscles are growing but your tendons aren't.

does anyone know? is that what causes the joint pain, the fact that the tendons aren't getting stronger while the muscles are. If so, will combining anadrol with hgh counteract that. i'm pretty sure hgh will increase tendon strength as well as assist steroid capacity.

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die_hard842
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posted February 24, 2000 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for die_hard842   Click Here to Email die_hard842     Edit/Delete Message
I would start to taper down at this time, but you should not suffer from joint pain, A-50 causes big time water retention and this helps from having joint pain, now Winstrol is a differant story.

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Bounc
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 24, 2000 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bounc   Click Here to Email Bounc     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmm I really appreciate this....
I want the power, but I defintely dont want to irreversable damage. So I guess I will start the taper process today and swutch to 1/2 tablet for the next two weeks...
Question what exactly is winstrol, Clomix, and novaldex? and a)Where is the best place to get them? b) Should I take anything else with that during the tampering process?
c)IM kinda really in not discussing this with someone, but I just discovered your lil board, SO basicly....Should I start the test now? as im tapering......
I really appreciate this guys....

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Bounc
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 24, 2000 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bounc   Click Here to Email Bounc     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmm How can you prescribe clomd - which is for ovaulation, and navaldex - which is for breast cancer....Dude why should a guy take female pills? PLease this is serious, If you have any suggestions, please give me some information on the products i should take, and what they are primeraly used for..
ya freaking me out

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Joseph_stalin
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posted February 24, 2000 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

clomid is a synthetic estrogen. it binds to a part of the body (the pituitary gland i think). After it does this, the body starts to produce more testosterone to counteract the estrogen. Which is how it works in ovulation. In men, it will restart testosterone production after a cycle is done with. It will also do the same thing tha nolvadex does. It will prevent gynomastia.
a normal steroid cycle will shut down the bodies ability to produce testosterone. you will notice that your balls are somewhere in your abdomen right about now. That is normal. They aren't working, so much exterior test is coming in that they shut down and aren't producing testosterone right now. clomid makes them start working again, they start working faster than they would if you went cold turkey.
you need clomid on a cycle, because if you're natural testosterone isn't working when you go off steroids, you will go into a negative nitrogen balance and lose 60% of all hte muscle you gained. clomid is necessary to keep your gains, because it restarts test production very fast, preventing the wasting that would naturally occur after you stop taking steroids.
nolvadex binds to estrogen receptors in the breasts. it thereby prevents cancer cells from binding, inhibiting breast cancer. in men, it binds to the estrogen receptors, but we use it to prevent estrogen from binding to the breasts, whereas cancer people use it to prevent cancer from doing so.
the reason for this is because the body changes testosterone into estrogen through a process called aromataze. There is an aromataze enzyme that will convert the test into estrogen. which is why when men take steroids they grow breasts. they are becoming women.
in order to prevent yourself from turning into a woman you need either a drug that will prevent your body from aromatizing (changing) the testosterone into estrogen (arimidex & chrysin do this, they inhibit the aromataze enzyme). Or a drug that will prevent the estrogen from binding to the breast (clomid and nolvadex do this. they bind to the receptors in the breast, preventing the estrogen from binding. nolvadex is not an estrogen but clomid is. But clomid won't cause gynomastia because it is a weak estrogen and not powerful enough to cause breasts).
you probably won't need any nolvadex if you can get clomid. Clomid will do the work of nolvadex. It does the same thing.
Winstrol has been said to prevent the body from producing progesterone in one form or another. Progesterone is a form of estrogen. Anadrol will aggravate the progesterone producing parts of your body. Creating gynomastia. I don't think that nolvadex, proviron, arimidex, clomid, or chrysin will work with progesterone induced gynomastia. they are more for externally induced testosterone that has aromatized into estrogen. So whereas anadrol will create more progesterone, winstrol will cut the amount down. balancing you out.
The only drug used in bodybuilding that was actually meant to be used as an athletic enhancement drug is dianabol. everything else is either for anemia, ovulation, cancer, racehorses, dogs, wasting, aids, the creation of super-soldiers, dynamite, diabetes, cattle, asthma, obesity and sex changes. so don't feel too bad. Anadrol is meant for cancer patients and anemics.

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Bounc
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 24, 2000 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bounc   Click Here to Email Bounc     Edit/Delete Message
I was recommended to also take a multi vitamin, and "Pyruvate".
Pyruvate is supposed to burn fat, and increase weight loss, which is something i need to kill some body fat. too high..
an average guy.
Will takin this Pyruvate affect me in any way badly, since I am now ending my cycle..
And will I suffer any side effects from Clomid? I just basicly end this cycle, and clean some of the impurities from my liver,and wherever....Can I continue after all is complete on creatine, or something with no side effects, or harmfull to your body...yet help you maintain.

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