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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 169) |
posted February 23, 2000 02:30 AM
  
Ill be running 100mg a day of clomid after my cycle the first week and 50mg the second, but I want to keep everything I can. Ive read many posts of you bros using tribulus, I assume that your talking the over the counter stuff, if so how much daily do you use incase I decide to invest in it? Is there anyother supp I might look into for keeping gains? Thanx Bros Later. IP: Logged |
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ozzymandius Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted February 23, 2000 02:38 AM
WASTE OF MONEY just threw about 500 gramz away. stinkz and doesn't work that or the crysin you get at the market IP: Logged |
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Jonrocks Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted February 23, 2000 02:41 AM
I heard the crysin helps in maintaing gains. It helps keep the estrogen levles down. From what I understand is that the natural shutdown of test in the body is not due to too much test, but to too much estrogen. So in theory if you keep the estrogen low, you will keep your natural production up, thus maintaining your gains. Crysin should be taken twice a day at 500mg per dose. Tribulus should be taken at a dose of 750 to 1000 mg/day in divided doeses throughout the day. Another thing that should be taken everyday regardless of AS use is ZMA. Not nessciarly ZMA but some type of magnesium supplementation. IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 585) |
posted February 23, 2000 02:41 AM
really depends good tribulus does work but it does not work for every one try it out- I personally got good results with trib. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 585) |
posted February 23, 2000 02:45 AM
JONROCKS the reason for taking ZMA with tribulus would not be for its magnesium content but the zinc- which is essential in the production of testosterone. Chrysin is a aromatase inhibitor- like tribulus it works for some people. Usually high doses are called for- it is rather expensive so you would be better off buying arimidex or cytadren which you know for sure will work. But Clomid is all that you really need. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 169) |
posted February 23, 2000 02:46 AM
ok so now explain to me what magnesium has to do with the order of things...this I definately dont get... IP: Logged |
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madbomber31 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 259) |
posted February 23, 2000 02:46 AM
ok, here is my personal gains keeper formula... tribulus, at least 1.5 grams per day... HMB, ya everyone says the stuff sucks, but i tell ya what, its main use is to prevent protein breakdown in the body... ie, prevent muscle loss!!! follow the directions on any HMB bottle, they are all the same... PS is worth a shot, but its soooo expensive, i think your best off with the hmb and trib.. always take your vitamins and keep the protein intake up there... after 2 weeks of clomid, then a month of this, you should be set. i've personally never "crashed" and kept most of my gains... oh, you better believe i am pounding on this WOOD desk now... knock knock... shit, just knocked it over!!! IP: Logged |
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Jonrocks Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted February 23, 2000 03:04 AM
The magnesium doesn't help in size. The mineral is important in strength. About 2 years ago one of my phys. journels did a study showing that athletes are defeient in magnesium and that supplementaion of around 3 - 4 mg per pound of body weight showed a significant increase in strength. Myself and a few others have noticted some good results with it. It was something off the top of my head that I thought might help in maintaing your newly aquired gains. The more strenght you have, the heavier weight you can move, the larger your muscles will be... ... As for why I said ZMA. The magnesium and zinc are covalenly boned with an amino acid asparic acid, this increases absrobtion into the body. Yes macrophage69alpha zinc is good to, but i figured that was a common knowleged as taking a multi viatamin. Zinc is involved in hormonal actions in the body, as well as several hundred enzymatic reactions. Zinc deficiencies are uncommon but, every little bit helps.
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Jonrocks Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted February 23, 2000 03:06 AM
madbomber31 I agree, PS is something worth trying. Helps in keeping cortisol levels down. But I really belive that HMB is a waste of money. Have you gotten any results from it? IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 585) |
posted February 23, 2000 03:25 AM
Zinc deficiency is actual very common among atheletes. While it is true that zinc is a catalyst for many enymatic reactions- its purpose in ZMA is to "boost" testosterone production. You are correct with regards to magnesium and the research on its effects on strength. However to say that covalent bonding with aspartic acid of these two minerals increases there absorption is not especially interesting as almost all mineral supplements are bound to amino acids to increase their absorption. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Jonrocks Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted February 23, 2000 03:35 AM
macrophage69alpha Do you think that you really get any type of noticeable T boost form taking zinc? What is the advantage of the aspartate form of these minerals? I was aware that most minerals are bonded to aminos but was under the impression that the aspartate form (form reasearch) was the best in absorbtion. I am curious if there are any other benefits to using the aspartate form of those minerals. Any info would be apprectiated. IP: Logged |
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