posted February 22, 2000 03:39 PM            

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You all want to know what happens when you get caught bringing gear back accross the border, well this is what happened to me and about a dozen other people on saturday. I went down to TJ on Saturday morning like i often do at about 10am, took the bus over to Revolucion because I didnt feel like walking as it was a little warm. Got off the bus and visited a few Vets in the area that I often frequent, picked up the gear I wanted and some Tequila and went to go have a few drinks at the place I alway go to, its Beer and Tacos at the end of the foot bridge as you walk across from the plaza area into the main part of TJ, I like this place because there are no hawkers or people up in your face trying to get you to buy shit, 3 beers cost $2 and they have music. Put the bottles in my crotch in the bathroom and walked back to the bus, got on and back to the border. I felt completely comfortable and the bottles were unnoticeable, the bus was packed and I thought I was home free. As the bus was unloading I showed them my Id and said american citizen claimed the tequila and was heading to reboard the bus when an official said folks I am going to need to see your IDs again. He was speaking to two guys and a girl that had been on the bus so I was reboarding and he yelled to me he wanted to see mine also. The four of us showed our IDs and expained our business in Mexico, he asked if we were all together and we werent, asked if we had been to any pharmacies and we all said no and he said look i know what you guys have and then he looked through the girls purse and found a bottle of Clenbuterol, then we all had to follow him inside and empty our pocket and the two guys pulled out four bottles of test-200 each, that meant we were fucked, we all got partial stripp searched, they got the four in my crotch and took us to a room with four other people in it that had just been caught. The fine is 5000$ initially but can be mitigated down to 500 if you are cooperative and you have enough for personal use, dont know what the criterea for personal use and intent to distibute are but we all had pesonal, then we had to fill out a paper and state the reason we were bringing it back and show some remorse which their supervisor read and knocked us all down to 500. They said we needed it in cash to be released so I had to call my girlfriend and she was not pleased, afterwards I found out that you can sign a promisary note and be released in two hours and pay it in 30 days if you cant come up with 500 in cash, of course this is after I call the girlfriend. while I was being held they brought in 4 more people, one had 20 redi jects and 4 sust taped to him that they found as they patted him down in front of us. Two were in the marines and were apparently fucked, the military has a zero tolerance policy. The only record I will have is with customs, it will not show up on police reports or anything else, so I have no police record or anything which I was very happy about and noone searches customs records so I dont have to worry about employment problems or anything, and it shows up as an infraction,which is not that big a deal even to customs. I kept wondering how the fuck did we all get caught, out of the 12 people they picked to search all had gear on them, coincidence? I thought someone sold us all out but we had all been to different places, A few of us had been to vets and a few to different pharmacys, 3 of the guys were not big or built at all so go figure why they got searched, I have been many times and after thinking about it I guesse my number was finally up. So a 500$ dollar fine and no record, thats about all that happens if you walk accross, if your driving I think there is more fines and a possible car impound, but again it depends on the amount and mood of the people. On a positive note I saw Test-200 made by Tornel. The lady behind the counter said they just started making it to compete with Brovel and that it was not underdosed like Brovel, the date and lot were handstamped on the box but I didnt buy it because the box didnt look to hard to counterfeit, no holograms or security tape or anything, and she said she didnt know anything about them merging, so if anyone can confirm the Test-200 by Tornel I would appreciate it.

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posted February 22, 2000 03:51 PM            

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that is a great post! basically all you need is $500 and you are home free!

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posted February 22, 2000 03:54 PM         

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I agree, this is a very informative post, nice work bbq.

stay big,

Christian

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posted February 22, 2000 04:03 PM         

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I have been getting Test-200 by tornel for some time now. I first saw it 4 years ago in a Matamoros vet.

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posted February 22, 2000 04:06 PM            

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nice post. I guess the moral to the story is just be cooperative and courteous if you get busted.

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posted February 22, 2000 04:08 PM            

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nice post. I guess the moral to the story is just be cooperative and courteous if you get busted.

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posted February 22, 2000 04:13 PM            

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Thanks for the info...

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posted February 22, 2000 04:19 PM            

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First dude, I always stop at the same place you are talking about at the back of the bridge, there is a art store back there to right? But anyway the T-200 by Tornel has been on the market for years and is a good product (for a mexican veterinary product that is) but the area you are talking about is swamped with undercover boys that you would never suspect, shit they could be selling sunglasses and the minute you walk away start to follow, I have seen it so bad that 1 out of 10 fuckers are a rat.

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posted February 22, 2000 04:40 PM         

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Hey man pay one of the locals to bring it across for you. $20 bucks is better than a $500 fine. Get a young boy or girl to do it for you. They won't check them.

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posted February 22, 2000 04:50 PM            

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Brovell and Tornell have merged they are the same company.
yeah a friend of mine got caught- pretty much the same 500$ but if it happens again they take it pretty seriously- at least that is what I hear.

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posted February 22, 2000 04:58 PM         

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Can the locals cross the border though?

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posted February 22, 2000 07:26 PM            

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Great post...good info....Sorry for you in one way, but glad that it worked out in another!!

Ranger

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posted February 22, 2000 07:58 PM         

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Yea they can cross if they have a greencard. Many do.

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posted February 22, 2000 08:01 PM            

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I forgot to mention the lectures that we all received while we were being held, First one of the agents told us that steroids would give us cancer and kill us even at small doses, just like they killed Alzado, makes you wonder why doctors prescribe them, Then another agent lectured us saying that steroids dont really work and that all they really are is B12 and that we would get better results injecting strait B12 instead, I wonder why B12 isnt more popular? And finally another told us that at least we didnt get caught with steroids while we were in Mexico, that if the police there caught us then we would be in jail for months or even years possibly, wonder why you can buy them over the counter then? Anyway it was pretty funny all the bullshit they were saying but I just kept my mouth shut, said yes sir, I didnt know that sir, bla bla bla... A word of caution if you are in the military and considering bringing back some, dont, apparently the penalty in the military is much worse than customs, possible court martial now depending on prior behavior, large monetary fines and assorted other things. Here is a price list of vet gear if anyone is going shopping, Test-200 by Brovel was $16 for 10ml and $20 for Test-200 by Tornel, Reforvit was $18 for 50ml, Decandrolen-200 was $64 for 10ml, Ultragan-100 $25 for 10ml, Norandren-200 $49 now for 10ml, Stanazolic was $95, Laurabolin-50 was $50 but I thought that was rediculous, Test-50 by Brovel was $4-6 dollars, and thats about all I can think of for now. Oh and despite what they tell you, you dont need the $500 in cash that day to be released, if you cant get it you will have 30 DAYS to pay it and everyone there had the 5000 dropped to 500, but I am sure if you get caught with enough to consider it intent to distibute then you will be screwed. I wished the agents had made those ignorant statements on the board so I could watch them get flamed, but oh well. Oh and I am pretty sure I did not get followed by anyone, at least not to the bus or on it, I think I was just unlucky, they profiled me, muscular build, young looking and said fuck it lets see if he has anything, everyone being held that day was in their 20s and pretty built except for 3 dudes, so who knows. Good luck all, and watch your backs, take your time in TJ and maybe it would be a good idea to change your shirt before coming back to, or put on a hat too.

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posted February 22, 2000 08:05 PM         

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HEY, BIGBADBOB! i've been reading about haveing someone bring you gear acrossed for you. how dose that work? do they work for whom every your buying from and collect the money upon delivery? of do you have to pay upfront and hope for the best? or dose anyone else know?
thaks bro's

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posted February 22, 2000 11:25 PM            

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Tough break. You bring back a couple bottles
of test and the fucks treat the situation like your bringing back heiroin. I'll never understand.

You feel as though your being harrassed.

Triple H

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posted February 23, 2000 12:40 AM            

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This topic is great i wanna start by giving it one big BUMP
thanks for the info on bringing stuff across the boarders i will be sure to remember this experience if i ever try. As for the Test 200 from Tornell
im on it now its only the second week and im on 2cc's for this week and bumping it up to 3 for next week. I haven't felt anything like increased agressiveness, anger, or adreniline boost, but what i can say is that i am 10 weeks out from Athroscopic shoulder surgery and i took
135x 20
185x 20
205x 20
215x 20
225x 19
and i just started benching again last week.
yesterday on bench and never felt better so i guess its working
from talking to some of the guys here i really won't see my biggest gains until weeks 5-9 so i will try to keep you up dated
good luck and train hard

oversized

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posted February 23, 2000 09:06 AM         

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Nice Post...

NaLbUpHiNe - Home Free??!? Hmmm..
$500.00 and no gear doesn't sound so
free to me {grin}
But yeah.. having your freedom is a nice
thing eh!!!!

Vinman

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posted February 23, 2000 10:26 AM            

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to the Fellow who said that Brovel and Tornel Labs are the same is missinformed, just go to Tornels web site at www.tornel.com
there is noway they merged.

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