posted February 21, 2000 10:52 AM            

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I just got off the phone with organon in mexico, after speaking to them for qite a while, they have assured me that they have made no changes at all to thier sostenon. They still are manufacturing witht the same oil, the golden oil. Any clear sos that you have is fake. Hands down, no question about it. There may be some active ingredient in it, but it's not from organon.

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posted February 21, 2000 11:27 AM            

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FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK!!!!!!!!!

Man that sucks. I got 21 rounds of Sust from Mexico from Organon in the preload and ony ONE of them is yellow in color. I got them all from the same pharmacy, where they were on the shelves, not hidden in the back or anything.... and it wasn't even in Tijuana, but a little further south. But only ONE of them is yellow in color. The lady wouldn't even sell to us up front, until we told her we'd pay her more. And I really thought what I had was legit. I know I'm just digging in the dark here, but there really is NO WAY it can be real??? So to take that is a waste of time? SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need counseling, guys. I thought that Sustanon was gonna be the shit for me. Anyone got any words of wisdom?
And I thought I did good down there. Fuck, man. What a disappointment.

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posted February 21, 2000 11:42 AM            

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not to dipute you man, but i just got some that are clear and had it tested. I work in a lab and the stuff I got, which is real, tested ok. I am not a technician here, just admin. but my friend who is a tech, verified it for me. The thing to think about is that the oil may be a little different from supplier who supplies organon with the sesime seed oil.

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posted February 21, 2000 11:42 AM            

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Thanks for the Info E2.......Your the man !! Outa help some......break hearts in others....! Big Brother Val, Sorry to hear about your loss.........I know it sucks......If I can help.....drop me a line!

Ranger

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posted February 21, 2000 11:45 AM            

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I just got some from Nuevo Loredo. I checked 17 pharmacies and not one had any with the yellow color. They were all clear. Not to mention I did the freezer test and it came out a milky color. If it is fake, then that shoots the ole' freezer test theory. We need some input here.

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posted February 21, 2000 11:53 AM         

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I would have to disagree w/ you E2. I have some Sust. and only one preload is golden in color. I had them tested and they came out legit. My roommate is a chemical engineer and said that even if you make things exactly the same, they may still come out differing in color. Temperature or age can easily change the color of any chemicals. The only golden one that I have is the only one w/ a different batch #.

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posted February 21, 2000 12:02 PM            

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The clear shit is Bunk and it is being done within the company it is someone who works production and is stealing the the boxes and empty preloads we traced this through the batch # and the company has been told but more and more are coming out to the market, remember when you mix oil and benzyle alcohol and freeze or taste it you will see a differance in the solution and taste one to. to the guy who tested this shit can you scan the lab analysis report for all to see. I would just stick with the Pak Sostenon in the amps they are all over in Mexico.

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posted February 21, 2000 12:02 PM            

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The clear shit is Bunk and it is being done within the company it is someone who works production and is stealing the the boxes and empty preloads we traced this through the batch # and the company has been told but more and more are coming out to the market, remember when you mix oil and benzyle alcohol and freeze or taste it you will see a differance in the solution and taste one to. to the guy who tested this shit can you scan the lab analysis report for all to see. I would just stick with the Pak Sostenon in the amps they are all over in Mexico.

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posted February 21, 2000 12:13 PM            

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both e 2 and die hard are correct. this little secret leaked out over 6 months ago and I posted and people failed to beleive. these are not real redijects and the inside job story is also true.

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posted February 21, 2000 12:19 PM            

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if these are fake it's a big operation. i was just in reynosa and every pharmacy had the clears. my friends tell me the same thing about laredo, reynosa, matamoros......

somebodie's got a big operation going here for all these places to have clears. i know that the pharmacies i go to use to carry the yellows......so they must be getting them from the same supplier.......hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm

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posted February 21, 2000 12:22 PM            

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Tornado i'd really like to see those test reports. She told me they haven't changed anything and the oil is exactly the same, the ones you have may have some active ingredient but, is it the test's that are is sust?

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posted February 21, 2000 12:23 PM            

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also two words " SPRING BREAK" $$$$$$$$$$

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posted February 21, 2000 12:42 PM         

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DIE HARD -
ABSO FUCKING LUTELY!!!!
Want to know why STERIS shut down 2 years ago? because fakes were coming out of the mother company..right under the same roof as the real stuff. These were the best counterfits anyone had ever seen and fucked a wholeeeeee lot of people up.

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posted February 21, 2000 09:41 PM            

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E2, did you ask specifically if any of their sost redi's have been clear at all?

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posted February 21, 2000 09:56 PM            

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MY MAN JUST GOT SOME YELLOWS LAST WEEK IN ROSORITO.80 AT $10 A POP. F-THAT TJ SHIT $16 FOR THE CLEAR, HE HAD A FEELING THAT YELLOW SHIT WAS BUNK. THANK GOD FOR HIM.
"KING"-GOTTA COME UP!!

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posted February 21, 2000 11:27 PM            

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They told me that they've used the same oil continuously, that there should be no discrepancy in the base oil, it should be a golden color.

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posted February 22, 2000 08:07 AM            

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Thanks dude, that sure does suck though. I hope I can find some real redi's. I am going to confront my source and ask him to send the real ones (he has never scammed anyone before) if that doesn't work I am screwed.

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posted February 22, 2000 12:15 PM            

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i would not assume that you where scammed as most dealers really don't know whats fake and real. i have a source here who i warned way back who just got them and had i not told him would have assumed they where real. so its not always the source we all need to work together to keep the knowledge out htere as we all know knowledge equals power

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posted February 22, 2000 12:37 PM            

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this is great info
E2 thanks for calling organon much appreciation

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posted February 22, 2000 12:54 PM            

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E2 thanks for calling and checking on the sostenon preloads. I really appreciate your help and want to thank you for looking into that for me. Hopefully those lab reports are correct and the clear preloads are real too, I know I'm just being optimistic. But Thanks again for the help on this.

androx

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posted February 22, 2000 03:54 PM         

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The sus pre-loads that I just used were golden yellow, and this was just a couple months ago. If there was widespread tampering, somehow mine got through.

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posted February 22, 2000 06:08 PM            

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O.K. guys I finally have to let this out. I have close ties with an hispanic/american that owns a pharmacy on the outskirts of Nuevo Laredo.After I confronted him about the diffrences of color in redi's these days.He said the clear jects contain about 100mgs of cyp. The real ones are golden color and are 100% sos 250. He has a butt load of clear ones and also sells them. He keeps real ones on hand, but not alot. He sells clear ones(for people who don't know about them yet) to most of customers. He has a seperate box of real ones in the back that I purchse. He told me he could sell me clear jects for $7 opposed to golden which are $10-12. I know for a fact the clear are not Sos 250, but cyp (a low dose). He would not tell me who produces the clear redi-jects.

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posted February 22, 2000 08:38 PM            

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Great! Thanks for the info Mr. Laredo, i think that should settle it once and for all!

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posted February 22, 2000 09:10 PM            

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Whats up E2,that fake Sustanon-is it just Organon in Mexico,because there are Nile's and Brazilian stuff.

I just want to make sure it's not more than Organons that are faked.

Thanks for the reply man..

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posted February 23, 2000 04:15 PM            

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if they only contain about 100mg of cyp, then how much should be taken a week?

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