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A-mass
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 19, 2000 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
I KNOW THAT TRENBOLONE IS NOT ANYMORE A WIDELY USED AS. BUT SOON AS i RECOVER FROM SURGERY [ABOUT ONE WEEK] I'M STARTING A CYCLE OF DECA/PRIMO/SUST/FINA. I'LL BE TAKING 6 WEEKS WORTH OF SUST, 5 WEEKS WORTH OF DECA, 3 WEEKS WORTH OF PRIMO, AND 3 WEEKS WORTH OF FINA. I'VE GOT MY DOSAGES FIGURED OUT ALREADY, BUT I NEED TO KNOW... SHOULD I TAKE THE 6 WEEKS OF SUST FIRST THEN FINISH UP WITH THE FINA, OR OTHER WAY AROUND?

MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS ARE SUST AND DECA FOR THE BEGINNING, THEN FINA AND PRIMO FOR END. THAT WAY MAYBE I'LL LOSE A LITTLE WATER IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS OF THE CYCLE BUT KEEP A LOT OF STRENGTH AND NOT CRASH SO HARD.

I KNOW TREN IS USUALLY USED FOR PRE-COMPETITION, I'M NOT COMPETING [THIS IS A MASS CYCLE] BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK FUCKING AWESOME HARD FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE AT THE END OF THIS CYCLE.

SOME VETS, MODERATORS, EXPERTS PLEASE RESPOND.

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A-mass
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 20, 2000 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
bump. Somebody help me out, please.

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useless2Bjuiceless
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posted February 20, 2000 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for useless2Bjuiceless   Click Here to Email useless2Bjuiceless     Edit/Delete Message
sounds good to me --same cutting cycle I am doing but with more primobolan-the Fina is good at the end b/c it reduces bf%

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strym
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 20, 2000 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for strym     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11
I`m new to the board hello everybody!
I think you shoulden`t use anabolics longer than 8 weeks because of inhibition.
and you should combine the stuff to get a better effect.

I`ve gotten great result this way

Ps: always end with clomid for 3-4 weeks

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E2
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posted February 20, 2000 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I agree with you , as to the deca sust for the beginning and the primo fina for the end. You will have the added advantage of the trenbolone downregulating your cortisol receptors at the end of your cycle, which will help you keep more of your gains, and keep you harder.

AS well as you said it will help you drop water, post your whole cycle if you can, doses and all.

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A-mass
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posted February 20, 2000 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
I know some might not agree with the sust and primo doses here, but this was what I could get. All dosages are in mg per week except Fina which is in milligrams per every other day. I'm doing the Fina transdermally if you didn't figure that out.

Week___SUST___DECA___PRIMO___FINA
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1______500____400_________________
2______500____400_________________
3______500____400_________________
4______500____400_________________
5______250___________300______60 EOD
6______250___________300______60 EOD
7____________________200______40 EOD

Clomid 50 mg every other day throughout the cycle then 100 mg a day for week 8 and 50 mg a day for week 9.

I've got only 10 amps of sust, 1600 mg of Deca and 800 mg of Primo.. This was the best stack I could put together. I haven't bought the Fina yet, so I could still change that up.

Think I shoul add week 6's Sust to week 1?
Think I should pyramid the Deca up a bit and make it go one week longer?

Thanks for all the help vets, I've studied this one a lot but would like some final opinions/changes.

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Primo57
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posted February 20, 2000 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo57   Click Here to Email Primo57     Edit/Delete Message
Doesn't look too bad (considering what you
had); but I would personally take that week 6 sus and add it to week 1
because I like to hit the receptors hard
initially. The only other thing I'd recommend is Proviron if you can get it. It
will give you a little extra hardness (actually noticeable) aswell as help you
get back on track.

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A-mass
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 20, 2000 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, if I take the 250mg sust from week 6 and add it to week 1.... The last shot of sust is week 5 and after that it's just Fina and Primo -- NEITHER of which will aromatize in those doses. So I got another question besides reviewing my cycle. What could I take to get all the estrogen out of my system after week 5 or 6? I'll be taking 50 mg Clomid every other day, is that enough? Or should I get some nolvadex?

My logic here is that if I can maintain all the gains I make in the first 6 weeks except for a little water weight... and have NO estrogen elevation in my body by the time I get off at week 7 -- I'll basically keep all the gains. What do you guys think about extending the cycle another week by taking the two 300 mg primo shots down to 200 mg and adding the extra to a week eight that also has another 40mg Fina every other day in it?

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A-mass
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posted February 20, 2000 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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A-mass
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posted February 21, 2000 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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DoctorSavage
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posted February 21, 2000 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DoctorSavage   Click Here to Email DoctorSavage     Edit/Delete Message
A-mass;
You have found my secret. No I have to kill you. Just kidding. You have hit on one of the little used secrets of BB. Fina at the end of a cycle is pure magic. I don't worry too much about weight gains because so much is water (I generally use D-Bol), but when I finnish with Fina, I generally keep the strength. The clomid should help you enough. In truth, it's all I've ever used. Unless you are prone to gyno, it should be enough. I like your cycle but yeah, add the 6th week of sust to week one instead. Don't be afraid to extend the fina a week longer as well. Especially if you have the clomid on hand, as without it some people's test production gets shut down hard on fina. Oh, yeah, buy some gum. You might need it.

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Dr. Savage, PhD. (I am not a bodybuilder, amature or otherwise)

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A-mass
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posted February 21, 2000 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for the feedback, guys. More is welcome and appreciated, but I think I've decided precisely how I'm going to cycle already. I'll keep you posted.

The alpha male.

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A-mass
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posted February 21, 2000 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
One more question. Only have to shoot the primo once every seven days, right? Or is it beneficial to split it into 2 different shots a few days apart?

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E2
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posted February 21, 2000 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Shoot once a week is fine with primo

looks good but i'd up the primo dose and try and stay on it longer if you can

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A-mass
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posted February 21, 2000 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, starting to have second thoughts about the way I'm using the primo which of these two cycles looks best to you? This is all the material I've got.

Week___SUST___DECA___PRIMO___FINA
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1______750____400_________________
2______500____400_________________
3______500____400_________________
4______500____400_________________
5______250___________200______60 EOD
6____________________200______60 EOD
7____________________200______40 EOD

8____________________200______40 EOD

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Week___SUST___DECA___PRIMO___FINA
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1______750____400_________________
2______500____400_________________
3______500____400_________________
4______500____400_________________
5______250____________________60 EOD
6____________________300______60 EOD
7____________________300______40 EOD

8____________________200______40 EOD

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E2
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posted February 21, 2000 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I'd go with the first on, if you can try and get some more primo, but if you can't i'd stick witht the first one. Are you shooting or dmso the fina?

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A-mass
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 21, 2000 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
Just want to see signature on my post. Any other comments here. Getting anxious -- going to start in a week or so.

Damn, what a fucked up lifestyle this is. I've been working out for years... yet I'm carrying around the mentality that I'm going to "start in a week or so." I love it!

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