posted February 19, 2000 10:27 PM            

I have been doing some thinking about the best way to allow the HP-Axis to restablish itself after a cycle. Using prior data and examples from those using birth control and corticosteroids it seems to me that the level of HPA suppression is determined to a greater degree by length of exogenous hormone consumption and less by level of exogenous hormone consumption. Extrapolating this hypothesis I have a �type� of cycle in mind that would minimize HPA suppression and maximize its recovery to normal function. Tell me what you think. The only thing about this is that you would need to use an AS that has a relatively short half life. **this scheme could use whatever the #'s are just to demonstrate.

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posted February 19, 2000 10:48 PM            

some AS dont suppress much up to 3 weeks

but lots of them do it in a shorter period of time

DBOL seems to cause suppression very quickly in some individuals- anecdotally effects noticable in a week.

there are just a lot more variables to take into account- Use of aromatics- TEST, DBOL will probably not be good for such short cycles unless using arimidex or cytadren. Anadrol causes suppression in some people and not others- probably based upon progestenic binding capacity.

trenbolone and winstrol would seem to be the best for this type of short cycle but I would keep dosing a 2 weeks with 3 weeks off.
but those are just some Ideas and not really well fleshed out theories.

posted February 19, 2000 10:53 PM            

Supposedly if you dose up to 2x a day on dianabol, once when you wake up and again 4 hours later, the drugs will be out in 12 hours. and you will restart production before you dose again. you are supposed to be able to do that year round.

posted February 19, 2000 11:01 PM            

I agree that half life is important for determining the effect of the drug- but if its in your system for such a short time its also doing anabolic action for a short time. I have seen Roberts theories on once a day Dbol dosing to limit suppresion- yes it probably would work but the gains would not be comparable to the side effects which I believe would be worse because of the large infusion of androgens. their conversion to a large amount of estrogen and the subsequent drop in blood androgen levels.
peace