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halfcutz
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 27)
posted February 18, 2000 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halfcutz   Click Here to Email halfcutz     Edit/Delete Message
I get so scared you guys are gonna flame me each time I ask a question, but I don't know this stuff because I have done too much research, and now am trying to seperate fact from opinion. I trust you guys, I don't know why, I don't know any of you, but I do. Well I am afraid I might be overtraining. Is it possible for a 20 year old to overtrain, just kidding. I am in the gym 6 or 7 days a week, and isolate each muscle group.

1)Chest, abs, light calves
2)Back, abs
3)Legs, abs, heavy calves, light chest
4)Shoulders, triceps, abs
5)Biceps, light calves, abs
Repeat

I usually work out 1.5-2 hours, with no partner...and about 30-60 sec in between each set. 4 or 5 sets of 8 on most everything, except abs(more). I usually always feel sore the next day, I've always thought this was good. I want to push my self to the limit without going too far, if I am not working out hard enough I will go longer. I feel so lazy when I am not dead tired when I leave, and when I am not working harder than everyone else in the gym. I've read most of arnolds encyclopedia, including his workouts, I know I am not arnold, but I think if his workouts were that hard, I can't possibly be overtraining. Thanks Bros.

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chestyII
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chestyII   Click Here to Email chestyII     Edit/Delete Message
In a nutshell, yes you can overtrain at any age. My guess is that you could be overtrained if:

you are tired all of the time

you lose your appetite

your strength starts to decline

your stamina starts to decline

you lose motivation

try a 3 days on 1 day off. Get the whole body in during each of the three days. As you become more advanced. You can start to restructure it to doing the entire body within a six or seven day period.

I find, especially when cutting that I need a day off every 5 days or so. Then I am ready to kill again.

Chesty

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Big Brother Val
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
I also like a 3 on 1 off. I do two lifts a day right now.
.........a.m.........p.m.
Day 1:..Tri's........Bi's & foreamrs
Day 2:..Back.........Chest
Day 3:..Legs.........Shoulders & Calves
Day 4:..rest

Then I repeat. I find that splitting gives me more time to focus on each muscle group, and I'm not as tired because I'm not in the gym 2 hours at a time. Plus the 3 full days of resting time really helps me feel good to hit that muscle group again. I go on my lunch break at work, and then after work as well. It's a refreshing change of pace for me now, I'm actually getting sore again!!

[This message has been edited by Big Brother Val (edited February 18, 2000).]

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E2
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posted February 18, 2000 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Yeah i think you're overtraining take a day off and rest, and stop the 2 hour workouts you don't need them, mine only take 45 mins to 1 hr max and i'm beat to hell.

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massmonster2
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for massmonster2   Click Here to Email massmonster2     Edit/Delete Message
halfcutz, you left out one important thing in that post. Are you clean or on gas? Stay big

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bigdog37
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigdog37     Edit/Delete Message
if your not using any juice you should step up the intesity and never workout over an hour, your test levels drop significantly after 45-50 min but if your using juice i really can't tell you i have no experience

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Lou64
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou64     Edit/Delete Message
Intensity is more important then the amount of time you spend at the gym. It's recommended that you give your muscles 48-72 hours recoup time(gas or not) so that they can be refresh and ready for the next work out.

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big_bad_buff
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_bad_buff   Click Here to Email big_bad_buff     Edit/Delete Message

yes bro. you are over training

that's the first mistake people make when they start working out. they think the more they train, the faster, and bigger you get. (not true)

and for time in the gym, 45 min to an hour is it....get in, bust your ass, and get out.


like the other guys are saying, 3 on, 1 off.

this is my workout:

monday chest + triceps
tuesday back + biceps
wedsday off
thursday legs
friday start over

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Joe Juicer
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Juicer   Click Here to Email Joe Juicer     Edit/Delete Message
My golden rule of overtraining is that if I get sick or if I just feel run down all the time, then I'm probably training too much.

I'm on the sauce and I still only train 4 days a week. When I'm clean, I cut back to 3 days/week.

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shaonuff
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posted February 18, 2000 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shaonuff   Click Here to Email shaonuff     Edit/Delete Message
BigBadBuff: i like your split, but when do you workout your shoulders? on chest day or????

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