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MC
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 17, 2000 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
I am preparing for my first course but I need the advice of those of you that have been before please.

After reading a lot of posts I think I will go for:

100 mg. Deca every seven days for 5 shots
200 mg primobolan every seven days for six shots

I would like to add some dbol to this, maybe 20-25mg (4-5 tabs) max. This is my first stack so I don't want to do too much and I don't want to lose what I get. I would rather moderate gains I can sustain.

Could somebody please advise me on this stack and how to add the dbol into the cycle?

Thanks

MC

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E2
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 17, 2000 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
The deca at that dose is just a waste of money, go to 400 or forget it. Drop the deca and use the dbol at 5 tabs a day

E2

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 17, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
E2- i cant believe that I am going to have to disagree with you.
100 mgs of deca by itself is indeed pretty much worthless, but then again so is that 200mgs of primo. adding 100mg of deca is not worthless it just adds 100 mg per week to the total with the dbol he will be getting 450mg per weeks total 2/3 from anabolics and 1/3 from androgens- those are just relative terms as an indication of andro/anabolic ratio. although this stack is kind of weak taking out the 100mg of deca will make it weaker.

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MC
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 17, 2000 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
E2 are you suggesting I drop the Deca just because I was only going to do 100mg, or do you think I should just bin it anyway and go for Primo and Dbol as a simple stack.

If I go with your 5 tabs a day do you suggest 5 days on and two days off? How many weeks?

Also do I need Nolvadex/Proviron/HCG/Essential Forte because of the toxicity of the Dbol? Does it aromatise?

Is Dbol a test or test derivative, just out of curiousity.

Any links to sites that explain how Receptors work (or don't I want to know?!)

Thanks for the swift reply

MC

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MC
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 17, 2000 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
macrophage69alpha,

I agree it is a weak stack, I think that was the idea of the person who suggested it to me as this is my first course.

HOWEVER if you both really feel it is too weak even as a starter course, then please advise me accordingly. I am very new to this but learning every day. I have selected Primo deca and dbol as I know I can obtain legitamate source quickly and easily.

thanks for the advice, please keep it coming.

I now appear to be doing 400mg of Deca and 5 Dbol until you say otherwise!

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E2
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posted February 17, 2000 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Good i like that 400mg deca and 5 dbol now shove in some test ethanate or some sust and you'll be fine. Good first cycle, you'll grab some nice gains.

Mac what i was referring to was more the price of the deca, even when adding it to the primo it doens't justify the money (i'm talking human not vet deca) for the gains. It was a very weak cycle but adding the deca didn't add that much for the money.

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DianaBallBusta
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posted February 17, 2000 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DianaBallBusta   Click Here to Email DianaBallBusta     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65057870
I'm doing the same cycle in 3 weeks bro. Check it out and see if you like.

week D-bol + Deca + Primobolan Depot
Week 1. 35 mg 200 mg
Week 2. 30 mg 400 mg
Week 3. 30 mg 400 mg
Week 4. 20 mg 400 mg
Week 5. 10 mg 300 mg
Week 6. 5 mg 300 mg 400mg
Week 7. 300mg
Week 8. 200mg
Week 9. 100mg/day clomid
Week 10. 50 mg clomid per day
Week 11. 50 mg clomid per day

I'm only tapering with the primo to help keep gains. I have nolvadex in case anything goes wrong...like gyno. Just an option man.

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phiend
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posted February 17, 2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phiend     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63040172
Use way more deca and primo, and throw in the D-bol too. Do the deca 200,300,400... and and the same with the Primo. And, take about 4-6 tabs of D-bol a day for 6 weeks, too. Then use a little Clomid at the end.

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MC
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
OK guys, Thanks for the advice, I am interested in DianaBallBusta's stack, but I am guessing by your pro stats that you are not on your first cycle (just a guess) is everyone happy for me to try this as my first stack - I can get the dbol, deca, primo and clomid/nolvadex OK. Although I may run a description of the Deca past you guys before I juice...

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MC
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posted February 18, 2000 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
E2 (et al)

>>shove in some test ethanate or some sust and you'll be fine

Shove in?!! er..I am new to this and I do respect your authoritay BUT could you be a little more specific! The reason I am hesitant about adding more androgenic substances is I have seen people make big gains with highly androgenic courses then lose the lot when it's over, I am sure this is avoidable with knowledge, but my biggest source of info at the moment is this board.

I like DianaBallBusta's idea of tapering off on Primo to lessen the crash after the Dbol - tho would you need HCG as well as Clomid?

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MC
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm..is it acceptable to bump your own message?!

Just killing time till someone talks to me again - thanks in advance...

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A-mass
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 18, 2000 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for A-mass   Click Here to Email A-mass     Edit/Delete Message
You're going to be experiencing a crash from losing water from the d-bol anyway. So why not add some sort of testosterone to get as much gains as you can before you lose 7 or 8 of them to water loss. Think about something like this

Wk___Sust___Dbol___Deca___Primo__Clomid
1____500____4tabs__300___________50mg EOD
2____500____5tabs__400___________50mg EOD
3____500____6tabs__400___________50mg EOD
4____500____5tabs__400___________50mg EOD
5____500____4tabs__400___________50mg EOD
6____500___________300_____200___50mg EOD
7____500___________200_____400___50mg EOD
8____250___________________400___50mg EOD
9__________________________300___50mg EOD
10_______________________________100mg
11_______________________________100mg

Keep Nolvadex on hand

What do you think MC?

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madbomber31
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posted February 18, 2000 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
i am the farthest thing from a megadoser... but make decent gains while on juice anyway. though i think the 100mg of nandralone is not enough, i do think 200mg - 300mg would be perfect... say 20-25mg of dbol perday, in divided doses (3times per day), 200mg of nandralone per week, and 200mg of primo per week should be a great kick in the ass for a first timer. dont forget, in 3 or 4 weeks if your not making the gains you waint, its possible to add something else (test) or just up your intake of what you are doing (the nandralone/dbol). why take in more then you want if you dont have to, and odds are you wont have to if its your first time.

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MC
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 20, 2000 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
I do love the advice and I am trying to take it all in, my First course seems to be getting bigger and bigger . . let's hope I do too..Anyone else got some input here?

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MC
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 21, 2000 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC     Edit/Delete Message
If I do the dbol/deca/primo OR the dbol/deca/primo/sust when do I do I take the injections?

What I mean is do I inject all on the same day . . same syringe..etc?

Do I take each roid in 50g doses or the whole lot in one go?

I don't mean to be a pain but this is my first stack and this is one area not covered much..point me to a resource or give me your ideas please

MC

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