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AXV Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted February 15, 2000 11:49 AM
 
If you are not familiar with LSD or other psychedelics, then this will be of little use to you. However, if you have experienced it and are well educated about its effects, LSD can be an extremely powerful tool for bodybuilding. No, it's not anabolic, anti-catabolic, thermogenic or anything like that. What is does do, however, is give you an UNBELIEVABLE breakthrough in the mind-body connection. Working-out on a low dose of LSD produces intense mental focus and awareness of the mechanics of muscle tissue. You will be able to feel every fibre in you muscles being worked. You will be able to fully direct your consciousness inward. You will be able to fine-tune your exercises and tweak them to increase muscle workload - things that would only come after many years of physical and mental training. I would not recommend training heavy while on acid. You shouldn't be trying to break any records, just exploring intelligent muscle contraction. Again, if you don't have any experience with psychedelics, forget it. They are very powerful drugs and should be treated with respect. But if you do, give it a try. Start off using a dose of 1 to 1.5 hits of blotter paper and go to the gym when there aren't a lot of people around. LSD is also a great tool when you are dieting. It helps you tune in to the way your body is reacting to food. Give it a try and let me know how it goes. Trust me, it works. - Alex IP: Logged |
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mr_Blond Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted February 15, 2000 11:54 AM
I've heard it all now...You have got to be F#%cking joking! Maybe smoking a bowl between squats would be a good idea to. Bark Lil Doggy IP: Logged |
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Rock_Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 165) |
posted February 15, 2000 12:08 PM
Ummmm hmmmm, hey guys if you should happen to find anything around here that resembles a stamp... Don't lick it! hehe JK. I haven't tried LSD so I think personally, I 'll just keep it that way. Just my opinion... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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E2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 649) |
posted February 15, 2000 12:12 PM
He's right i had a friend of mine who used to take it all the time before workouts and i'll tell ya it certainly made him able to go much heavier than he normally could. I remember one time he decided to do push ups, got down on the floor and didn't stop, he just kept on going. I couldn't believe it, it's like he was the damn energizer bunny. I'm not into thouse rec drugs though. Not for me. IP: Logged |
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mr_Blond Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted February 15, 2000 12:21 PM
I'm sorry E2 but he's not right...If your friend could do those push-ups with LSD then he could do them without it, there are no anabolic properties there. Bodybuilding is as much a quest of mental strength as it is physical...& if one were to reduce themselves to the point of taking LSD to accomplish a workout then it's not worth it. No wonder we get a bad rap for taking gear with concepts like this being used. Bark Lil Doggy IP: Logged |
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Formula Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted February 15, 2000 12:24 PM
I think he was on it when he was writing. IP: Logged |
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Rotten Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 64) |
posted February 15, 2000 12:29 PM
Also, while your doing that, drop a tab of XTC so you will drink more water. JK There is no way that that could be good for you. Imagine doing a set on the bench, and having a bad trip. Most people have a hard enough time on LSD sitting in their livingrooms. I'm not flaming you bro, I just couldn't believe your post.  IP: Logged |
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AXV Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted February 15, 2000 12:35 PM
You're right mr. blond. Acid did NOT give E2's friend any anabolic help. I said so myself. What it did give him, was the increased mental focus required to push the body beyond its normal limits. Psychedelics open different pathways in our brains. They give us access to areas of our mind that are usually dormant. Psychedelic psychology is an extense field and I am not going to educate anybody in it. As a matter of fact, I am not trying to convince ANYBODY to try acid. It was just a suggestion, for those who are interested in this kind of chemicals. And no, nobody should use LSD in order to "accomplish" a workout. It is simply a good "teacher", something you do every once in a while. IP: Logged |
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Club_SOda Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted February 15, 2000 01:03 PM
FUCKING IDIOT!! NEVER POST THINGS LIKE THIS IT L MAKE PEOPLE GO CRAZY!!!! OK if u can treat it with respect but you ll never know what /how much this is..and what you get... lamer idiot, morron Listen lsd makes you THINK THESE THINGS HAPPEN i ve been reading med books from doctors and lsd makes you belive/feel and all this you gotto be kidding.. Hey docs am i wrong? IP: Logged |
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AXV Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted February 15, 2000 01:17 PM
Club_soda : chill the fuck out, man. I don't know if you are being sarcastic or if you are serious, but I'm assuming you meant what you wrote and you are just speaking out of ignorance. Look, if you don't know about something - don't say anything about it. You are not entitled to an opinion if you lack the experience. I don't know what "med books from doctors" you've been reading, but I'd be interested in finding out. You sound like the people who say they read "med books from doctors" about how steroids make your dick small and screw up your DNA. Learn how to spell and do some research. And chill out with the insults. IP: Logged |
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E2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 649) |
posted February 15, 2000 01:27 PM
Yup i think it's confirmed, club soda is snowflake under another name IP: Logged |
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mr_Blond Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted February 15, 2000 01:45 PM
OK AXV, maybe your right about the "increased focus" and the "different pathways" (I have no experience in these matters) and I can appreciate your well said response in spite of my mild flame. Maybe it's just me, but the title of the post ("LSD great for bodybuilding") was what, I think, rubbed me the wrong way because I personally dont believe LSD is great for anything especially physical enhancment. I suppose we shall just agree to disagree. Bark Lil Doggy [This message has been edited by mr_Blond (edited February 15, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 310) |
posted February 15, 2000 01:49 PM
The modern-day blitzkrieg of propaganda (through the television medium) has managed to circumvent our ability to critically reason and accept alternative theories in reference to "accepted modes of thought." You have to have an open mind and critically evaluate a theory before discarding it as inherently false. Basically, I think he has an interesting outlook on lifting that should be examined and not ridiculed, although I would never try it (since I am a novice to mind altering substances). Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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El_Rey Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37) |
posted February 15, 2000 01:50 PM
i agree with mr_blond IP: Logged |
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chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 121) |
posted February 15, 2000 02:06 PM
It is kinda of funny, we are all about health and getting big and living long. While this drug LSD may give increased focus, it has its health consequences. I have seen its effects first hand, from the mild I feel good to the paranoid kid who did a hit at the football game. Would anyone consider doing a hit of "ice" to increase the metabolism to lose weight? Even though it has a good chance to permanently ruin your mind after one hit. Let's stay healthy and avoid things that screw with our mind. Of course I'll catch some flak (maybe a lot) But, I am in this game for the healthy side of it not the mind altering side. Yada Yada Chesty IP: Logged |
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Adonis Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 174) |
posted February 15, 2000 02:15 PM
Oh now thats Rich, i ve heard it all now, and yes snowflake, skinnyguy and clubsoda are all the same person  IP: Logged |
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Rock_Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 165) |
posted February 15, 2000 02:21 PM
It is a legit issue for those who wish to persue, or those already involved in the persuit. As a topic there really isn't anything wrong with expressing your view. That's what discussions are for. I was kidding around earlier in this post, but in all seriousness let's look at this... Those who have done a cyle of roids in the past have usually done another or at least want to, right? Those who cycle again will eventually go heavier on the gear or at least want to, money permitting. Now put LSD into this equation... The more you try it the more you will eventually want. It's human nature. LSD then traps you into dependency thus equalling big trouble for the person involved. Roids are not addictive in the chemical sense. More so to the lines of Dysmorphia. But taken off roids you won't have the same problem. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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TAZ Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1) |
posted February 15, 2000 03:12 PM
Isn't someone considered legally insane after 5-7 trips? Imagine going insane for 7 good workouts, hehe...crazy shit.  Taz IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514) |
posted February 15, 2000 03:27 PM
I have no personal experience with LSD, however I will go so far as to say that LSD has its place as a therapeutic tool- contrary to what the government and mass media say- and that its use may have some(probably not alot) benificial effects on the connection between mind(nervous system) and muscle (innervated). All that being said I have no interest in taking LSD and that there are plenty of other drugs that can be used much more effectively to enhance neurological function. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Ripper Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted February 15, 2000 03:30 PM
I couldn't agree more with macrophage69alpha.....stay with AS...forget LSD IP: Logged |
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DoctorSavage Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted February 15, 2000 03:31 PM
I'm not sure, but I think that LSD speeds up the Krebbs cycle in the body. If that was true, at low doses, I could see a benifit for sports aplications. I think this is part of why you seem to have a much higher alcohol tollerance under the influence of LSD. I'm not about to try it, but I have a question for all of you that jumped on this poor poster; why reject LSD out of hand when lots of lifters are getting hooked on Nubain? And no offense, but if you don't call Test, Dbol etc. recreational drugs, what keeps them from that designation. I use them as recreational drugs. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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AXV Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted February 15, 2000 03:36 PM
Thank you, everyone, for taking the time to respond to this posting. I particularly admire the outlook of jon (2thick) - you are a doctor, right? IP: Logged |
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vdevil Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 130) |
posted February 15, 2000 03:44 PM
Although I live a relatively healthy lifestyle now(training,clean diet, little alcohol,no mind altering drugs)I went to drug rehab at 16 for the abuse of substances like the one that is the topic. I have probabaly dosed more than 50 times. About 15 of those trips turned out to very bad ones. Some, I have been told, have effected me permanently. L.S.D or any other hallucinagenic drugs are very dangerous. They can cause severe problems mentally, that you don't see till years down the road. I am 27 now, and still feel the effects. What if you had a bad trip while training, and could never look at it the same way again, ever?
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TxCollegeguy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted February 15, 2000 03:56 PM
If you think altering your state of mind will help with pushing past limits when working out why not see a hyptnotherapist(I hope thats how it's spelled) Listen to some of those relaxation tapes...I've listened to those kind of tapes before I used to run track meets and they helped me but I don't see how using a drug such as this will help. The reason why I don't agree with you is because a friend of mine back in highschool who used it often did something similiar to what your recomending and he nearly lost his mind not to mention his life(The Fucker I thought was going crazy)...In my opionion, and I don't think he was able to focus as good on as he might have been able to off...But I'm not a medical profesional so good luck to those who choose to do this Keep Pumping IP: Logged |
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AXV Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted February 15, 2000 04:11 PM
I have seen hypnotherapists and I have tried the tapes. I also meditate regularly, especially before working out. All these things are very helpful, acid just happens to be the most powerful method - which also makes it the most dangerous. People who aren't used to a hightened awareness are prone to experiencing hallucinations and "bad trips". IP: Logged |
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NaLbUpHiNe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted February 15, 2000 04:19 PM
The only recreational drugs that could help in bodybuilding are: Marijuana for that so called mind body connection (which i do not go for), Nubain or any other pain killer (xanax, percocet, percodan, etc...), Amphetamine's for the strict dieter (on amphetamines you can basically not eat at all, but you can also force yourself to eat the bare minimum of calories to lose weight), Methamphetamine's for that Rage, and Ketamine (at very low doses) to quickly kill pain but only after a workout never before or after)!!! I only use Nubain though, as you could have guessed! Only 5 times a week at 1 cc each time before a workout!!! LSD has none, and could make you flip out if you have a bad trip!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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HardCory Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted February 15, 2000 04:25 PM
just figured id chime in on this one.... in my humble opinion anyone that uses lsd when training is a freakin marooooon. ------------------ 300lbs or death IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 310) |
posted February 15, 2000 04:31 PM
AXV, I will only go as far as stating that I am linked to the medical profession. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514) |
posted February 15, 2000 04:37 PM
There are actually lots of other options selegine hcl, hydergine, all the beta agonists, all the alpha antagonists, all the amphetamine deritives, etc. all of these intensify the the connection between the "mind" and "Muscle" and these are but a few of the options. PEACE ------------------ IP: Logged |
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phiend Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 185) |
posted February 15, 2000 04:38 PM
Actually, I believe him, but I still do not think that I am gonna try it. I am through with acid. If you are gonna try anything, do shrooms because it has almost the same effects but it is better, and acid fucks up your spinal nerves. IP: Logged |
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AXV Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted February 15, 2000 04:46 PM
macrophage :: thanks for the info. where can i find out more about these substances? it doesn't mean that i'm going to try everything, but this stuff really interests me. IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514) |
posted February 15, 2000 04:52 PM
IAS LEF.ORG a lot of them are so called "smart drugs"- I had some nerve damage from a car accident- after just two weeks of treatment with hydergine- which mimics nerve growth factor- there was very noticeable improvement in contraction of the affected muscles. I also feel that it improved my ability to contract other muscles as well- part of the reason that strength gains continue well after the cycle is becuase you lack the innervation to use the "new" muscle. the neuromuscualr adaptations during and after your cycle allow you to use that muscle more and more efficiently leading to increased strength. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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DaBOMB Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted February 15, 2000 05:44 PM
Drugs are fun and lifting is fun but drugs and lifting create a serious conflict of interests to anyone who is truly seeking the best body that they can have. I smoke a little before I work out but I know I should'nt no matter how much I try to justify it to myself it won't ever help you with long term goals....PERIOD IP: Logged |
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skinnyguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 54) |
posted February 15, 2000 08:40 PM
I think Adonis isn't a pro bodybuilder. nor does he abide by the rules of the chat. There's always someone who starts to put others down and then its starts a trend. Unfortunately, people don't investigate the facts. They just judge. Oh well. you're loss. IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 142) |
posted February 15, 2000 08:42 PM
Skinnyguy:hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!  IP: Logged |
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tray renfro Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 193) |
posted February 15, 2000 08:48 PM
holy shit E2, i dont know why but i cant stop laughing. its confirmed... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514) |
posted February 15, 2000 09:02 PM
Hey, I realize that making fun of skinny guy is irresistable so since I wanted to make a point I'll just post it again- IAS THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART- BTW- to skinny guy you have to get some muscle before YOU can work on increasing innervation- I think in your case a cycle of: 30 A-50's/day for 2yrs should help you to shuffle of this mortal coil, I mean grow. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Texas Guns Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted February 15, 2000 10:32 PM
Why don't you just try a little vacation to alter and clear your mind. The bad side effects of LSD certainly outweigh the reasons to use the drug. We're pouring so much into our systems right now, what's a little more poison? Get real. IP: Logged |
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Primo57 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 194) |
posted February 16, 2000 12:44 AM
I ain't gonna lie; I've tried the blotter - at the last Grateful Dead show, Fall 1994 - I was on a cycle of Primo and Test cyp at the time...I kept looking at myself and noticing my vascularity, and it really scared the shit out of me....I thought I could feel every once of blood circulating in my body. I also got real flushed - like when you take Niacin; a word of advice - stick with GHB if you want to get fucked up. IP: Logged |
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blitzcreed Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted February 16, 2000 12:59 AM
PCP is also great for bodybuilding, it gives you superhuman pumping power. So everyone go to your local vet get some and hit the gym.. I have used LSD many times and it does nothing but fry your freaking mind and ruins your health.... Stay Away from the dope... It kills... IP: Logged |
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