posted February 14, 2000 02:11 AM            

please dont just post shit you've read out of a book and have no personal experience with nor any technical knowledge with which to answer the question.

WHY DO PEOPLE TAKE THE WRITTEN WORD AS IF IT WERE FACT? WHEN PEOPLE TELL YOU SOMETHING DO ALWAYS ASSUME THAT THEY ARE RIGHT? HOW ARE WORDS PUT TO PAPER MORE CREDIBLE THAN SPOKEN ONES? ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AND YOU'LL KNOW WHERE YOU WENT WRONG.

to answer your question, clen is best taken every day. you might say to yourself why should I take it every day if it has such a long half life? seems reasonable to me- but Clen is biphasic meaning that clen it self has a half life of like 5-6 hours it metabolites have a half life that is considerably longer. the metabolite is not a strong but still down regualtes receptors- so frequent dosing is recommended to maintain the blood levels of the more potent chemical. take it for as long as it has a noticable effect. this can vary considerably from individual to individual though average seems to be about two weeks. Even this is theoretical because the amount of work done with regard to clenbuterol is limited by its non approval by the FDA. From personal experience It seems as thought the effects really begin to wane around the 2weeks mark- switch to ECA or one of the other thermogenic combos, when you notice a plateau or that your body seems to be adapting switch again- this is, in my opinion, the best way to lose fat with the use of beta agonists- I like yohimbine but its and Alpha antagonist and thus another story.

Peace

BTW- Bigger A - sorry if that sounded harsh but the point I was trying to make is real and real important as well.

posted February 14, 2000 02:22 AM            

So is that your personal experience?

Reason that I bring t up, several of us use clen, and it seems like we can go a week before it has no "physical" effects. Typically, I will only increase the daily dosages, up to 140mcg, and once I am there, then I will stay off for 3 days, then start back. I keep doing this until I no longer need the effects of the clen. I have found that this works the best for me. Others have similiar cycles.

as for yohimbine, you can only stay on that for so long as well.

Want a real rush? Take 2 yohimbine, some hydroxycut and 2 clen tabs. Talk about a having a heart attack. This will definitely cause a stroke. I know.

posted February 14, 2000 02:49 AM            

I have considerable personal experience with Clen as well as many other beta agonists. Everyone that I know who has taken clen, real clen, has noticed the effects within 1-2days. I personally know at least 20 people, both men and women, (probably a lot more) who have had simliar experiences.

I think that either you are not taking enough or the clen that you have is fake , underdosed, or a combination of the two. Oxyflux and brontel have what I consider to be extreme quality control problems. some of their tablets have no clen in them and others quite a bit- personal experience speaking. In addition I have tried said stack, of course I used real ephedrine caffeine 3x/day, clen 10 tabs a day, yohimbine hcl- 40mg topically/day. the fat burning effect were good but the dehydration was not worth it. But there was no stroke, I KNOW- especially since I followed this regimen for a week.

posted February 14, 2000 10:54 AM            

Late