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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 108) |
posted February 12, 2000 06:04 PM
   I've read a bunch of conflicting posts on the subject and am not sure if i'm right anymore. Here's what I always thought: All steriods are selftapering. For example, If you inject 600mg of enanthate on your final week (and enanthate has a halflife of 10days), ten days later you will have 300mg in you system (provided that it is a one injection cycle- lets not whip out our calculators and figure out weekly injections for ten weeks.)Ten days after that you will have 150mg, and so on. So what is the point of tapering in the first place(with roids that have long halflives)? I almost never do it unless I start run out of gear. As far as tapering up, well, I don't wanna get into IP: Logged |
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Joseph_stalin Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 73) |
posted February 12, 2000 06:54 PM
it probably depends on what you mean by tapering. some injectibles have a half life of 5 days. some have a 14 day half life. if you feel that it takes a minimum of 2-3 weeks to properly taper, then you probably won't view the 5 day half life injectibles as "self-tapering". It depends on how long you think it will take to taper properly. IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 200) |
posted February 12, 2000 08:25 PM
I usually always taper down (no matter what people say). And especially when using Deca. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 108) |
posted February 12, 2000 08:27 PM
Yeah, I see what you're saying but people post cycles with eq and deca that have a lower mg dosage on the last two weeks than for the bulk of the cycle. These drugs have half lives of over close to and over three weeks. Whats the point!?!  IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 108) |
posted February 12, 2000 08:27 PM
Yeah, I see what you're saying but people post cycles with eq and deca that have a lower mg dosage on the last two weeks than for the bulk of the cycle. These drugs have half lives of over close to and over three weeks. Whats the point!?! IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 108) |
posted February 12, 2000 08:32 PM
2thick, for the sake of simplification lets suppose you took your deca every three weeks. On you last injection day you inject 500mg. I believe deca has a half life of three weeks. Am i wrong? If so, three weeks later you have 250mg and six weeks later you have 125mg. Is my logic flawed?????? IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 200) |
posted February 12, 2000 08:53 PM
What is important about tapering is that it allows your body to adjust to the falling levels of the gear. It also allows you to start the Clomid because if you have too much test in your body, the Clomid may not be very effective at recommended dosages. Your body is shocked more when you abruptly stop gear, so it is to your advantage to ease your body off of gear by tapering. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 108) |
posted February 12, 2000 09:03 PM
yeah but, on deca (500mg) it takes 7 weeks for 5oomg to turn into under 1oomgs. i mean that's a gradual taper- your body will not be left with it's dick flaping in the wind from one day to the next. Also, if using clomid, shouldn't you wait longer than two weeks post cycle to take it? Think about it, if you do deca for 10 weeks @500 mg you will have acouple grams of it in your body by week ten and it should take a couple of months to get it down to zero. Are my calculations wrong???????? IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 200) |
posted February 12, 2000 09:19 PM
Your calculations seem correct, but my point is that you need to start lowering your dosage anyway, so do it faster with a taper. I personally do not know of hard research with the particulars of the how long different AS last in the body, but I do have knowledge from individual experience (from others) and myself. That has led me to my conclusion. Many do not agree, but they also have more gear in them at the end of their cycles than I do (if we had identical cycles). BTW, some people take Clomid throughout and I (along with many people) begin Clomid the day after my last injection. Also, just because it is traceable in your system for a long period of time, it does not mean that the substance is active for that same period of time. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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kpumpin Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 97) |
posted February 12, 2000 10:56 PM
You just have to take the drugs halflife into consideration and start the clomid accordingly. I still say no taper and have done it both ways many times and have made more impressive gains without the taper. kpumpin IP: Logged |
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