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nbk
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 12, 2000 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk   Click Here to Email nbk     Edit/Delete Message

I�ve red this info on clenbuterol on various pages and I found this:

"Clenbuterol has been reported as having a half life of about 2 days, but that is not actually correct, since it has biphasic elimination, with the half-life of the rapid phase being about 10 hours, and the slower phase being several days. Supposedly, this is one of the reasons the FDA never approved clenbuterol as an anti-asthmatic drug...the FDA frowns on drugs with long half-lives if drugs with more normal half-lives are available. So with a 2-on/2-off cycle you never have time to get enough of the clenbuterol out of your system for this theory to be reasonable. In actuality, it probably hasn't even dropped to 50% of your peak concentration before you are taking the drug again. With this all taken into account, there is no reason to think that this cycling would significantly reduce the problem of receptor desensitization. A more reasonable approach would be either one week on, one week off, or alternately, two weeks on two weeks off. The two week cycle has the disadvantage of a "crash" period afterwards. This crash period can be helped with the use of ephedrine to lessen the lethargy that you will experience."

I�m acutaly doing a lot of reserch on clen and I�m planing on using it for about two weeks only to drop some bf and then go back to my diet and about six weeks later or so do it again for two more weeks... get the point I�m only looking forward to dieting two weeks.

Well I would really like to know what you think of the 2/2 utilization or if I can get away with using it for two weeks, no tminding at all if it looses efeciveness for too long.

Tell me on the results you�ve had???

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nbk
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 12, 2000 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk   Click Here to Email nbk     Edit/Delete Message
i�ll bump, i�ll bump, i�ll bump, and i�ll throw the house down

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 12, 2000 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
I used like clen for about ten days at a time with 6 weeks- 8 weeks in-between. I never go offECA so I would not know if using ECA helps with the "crash", although I have never experienced any such crash- if anything ephedrine works better after taking clen.


the 2 on 2 off is a ridiculous dosing pattern which because of clen' long half life has be shown to be of no value- Clen is kind of like anavar it is bi-phasic, which means that its second stage metabolite is effective as well, which is what extends clen's half life.
That being said- I prefer DNP- immeasurably over clen. it is a far better fat burner.
though it does take a little more know how.

peace

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nbk
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posted February 12, 2000 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk   Click Here to Email nbk     Edit/Delete Message
thanks macro

I wonder why people still keep telling me to go 2-2 on clen?

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nbk
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posted February 13, 2000 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk   Click Here to Email nbk     Edit/Delete Message
two days

i�ll kekekekekekeep bumping till I, I ,I

whatever,(phuking sides)

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violet
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posted February 13, 2000 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet   Click Here to Email violet     Edit/Delete Message
nbk - do u think its valuable to take 2 on - 3 or 4 off?? i am on clen right now, i would like to know the most effective way to use it, so i dont waste it. Also, what is the best to use on the off days? oh...and what is dnp, i am very curious....sorry about all these questions - thanks

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nbk
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posted February 13, 2000 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nbk   Click Here to Email nbk     Edit/Delete Message
Violet, I suppose theres no big difference in the utilization of clen between men and women besides the dosage.

In a few weeks I�ll start doing one week on eca, and then two weeks on clen, srtaight, after that I�ll go one week back to mantainance with a little help from eca. After that i�ll start to upen the calories week by week to go into my regular massing phase.

My diet will be a tkd. What I�m tring to tell you is i don�t really care if after the two weeks clen looses efectiveness, because I won�t be using it for another two months or so.

Doing straight doses might be a good idea to get the most out of it, sice by taking two days off your not really letting your body recover from clen.

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