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Author Topic:   Need to Know the BEST cycle of Sus250 for a first time user.
ItalianSweetness
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 12, 2000 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ItalianSweetness     Edit/Delete Message
This is my first ever cycle. I have choose to use Sustanon 250. In what span of time should i cycle it? In what dosages? Remember i am a first time user but already have a good size naturally through 3 years of lifting. I am 18 and 200lbs at 6'0 10 percent body fat. I want to gain about 15 -20 lbs. of rock hard muscle.----Also, should i use clomid? When, How much?

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 12, 2000 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
this question has been aswered about a hundred times- look throught the posts- if you have a question after that then post it.

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2Thick
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posted February 12, 2000 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
I would do a six week cycle that would have the weekly dosages looking like this:
250,500,500,500,500,250
Start using the Clomid the day after your last injection. The first 7 days at 100mg/day and at 50mg/day for the last 7 days.
You will gain about 10-15lb of hard muscle if you do everything perfectly.

Macro,
Did you have a bad night or something? You shouldn't bite his head off. We cannot all be as competent as you...ha!

Jon

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 12, 2000 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
No I just find it irrtiating when newbies clog up the board with four or five consecutive posts asking the same thing over and over again or asking something that has been answered a hundred times before.

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vdevil
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posted February 12, 2000 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message
Hey paisano, check out the other 1500 posts on sust.

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E2
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posted February 12, 2000 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I'm just goin to say that at 18 you shouldn't be taking steroids at all, you've got tons of natural test and don't need any more, wait a few more years then take all the shit you want.



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studcj
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posted February 12, 2000 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
Here's what Im doing for my first cycle.
Wk1 500mg
Wk2 750mg
Wk3 750mg
Wk4 1000mg
Wk5 1000mg
Wk6 1000mg
I will also be taking 20-25mg of d-bol a day.
Then I will use the clomid as 2thick posted.
After that im getting on clen, because i expect to have excess body fat, then I will see where Im at as far as true gains.

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mitch251
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posted February 12, 2000 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mitch251     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with E2 @ your age you should wait until your 25 or 30 thats when your own test is starting to decrease @ about 1% a yr. Just try and eat more protein and take some creatine U will gain @ least 10lbs. KEEP PUMPING

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w8liftr
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posted February 12, 2000 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for w8liftr   Click Here to Email w8liftr     Edit/Delete Message
Agree at 18 needs to wait. Yo stud, that is a butt load of sus in the body!

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pillboy
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posted February 12, 2000 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pillboy   Click Here to Email pillboy     Edit/Delete Message
At 18 you should wait! If you do it anyway this it what I did on my 1st cycle. I did 1cc of sos250 every 10 days for 60 days. Total of 6cc's. I gained 20lbs. For a first cycle it doesnt take much, and being 18 you dont want to mess up your endocrine system to bad. after last shot I waited a week to use Clomid- 100mg for 1 week; 50mg for another. PB

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E2
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posted February 12, 2000 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Stud turn that cycle around hit em hard at first and then go down, i dont' know why people do that, why do you start small?? It makes no sense to me??


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The_Blond_Myth
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posted February 12, 2000 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
Don't waste gear and time by tapering up and down. Start with 750mg per week for 10 weeks, and 30-40mg of D-bol for the first five weeks, as you probably will not see any gains other than water in the first 4-5 weeks. Take 50mg of clomid everyday, but make sure you keep taking it untill all the test is out of your system, as you will still have a significat amount and it will take about 4 weeks from your last shot for it all to clear. If you feel you have to taper, do 500mg on the last week. I would definately go with D-bol in the begining, it sucks having to wait weeks to feel it.
Hope this helps. I would also have something for liver protection and hairloss.

LP

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The_Blond_Myth
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posted February 12, 2000 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
Response to E2:

I say go for it. Why wait? At 6' the biggest I could get naturally was 205lbs. You don't really have that much more left in you. Really what's the difference? Once you do one cycle your not going to stop. being big is much more impressive the younger you are.

LP

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madbomber31
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posted February 13, 2000 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
shit, i am with mac on this one...
you want to know how to cycle? you stick it in your ass and push the plunger. i swear to god half the posts are "how do i do sust"

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ItalianSweetness
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posted February 13, 2000 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ItalianSweetness     Edit/Delete Message
Easy macro and mad u gotta chill. Get off the roids for awhile. Just want info. Thanks everyone for the input. It helped. More ?'s comin.

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filtheboss
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posted February 13, 2000 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filtheboss   Click Here to Email filtheboss     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59593173
LISTEN UP

500MG SUS WK 1
10 DBOLS A DAY FOR TWO WKS
400MG DECA 1 MONTH
ANADROL 50MG TWO WEEKS
WINSTROL 300MG TWO WEEKS
NOVACAINE 1CC BEFORE INJECTING WITH 1.5"
20 GAUGE PIN.
TEST PROPIONATE 1 WEEK
CLONID CLOMID CLOMID
NOLVADEX, NOLVADEX, NOLVADEX
HCG X 2 WEEKS
HAVE SEX 3 TIMES A DAY

GOTO WORKOUTS AND PUMP IT UP

IF THAT SHIT DONT DO IT FOR YOU
DRINK A BAG OF CONCRETE, ADD WATER AND VOILA

ROCK HARDER THAN SHIT.

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Deepsquat
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posted February 13, 2000 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
Italian sweetness? what did you do, wake up this morning and say to your self"you know I think I will sign up on that discussion board and ask a STUPID FUCKIN QUESTION that has already been asked 1000 times!?" did you even check anyother posts or did you just pull that out of your ass? did you see the one by Biz that says BUMP this at least 5 times a day.? I know it just took me longer to type this out than if I just answered your question,but that is your 2nd dumb question of the day.

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1AbBIG
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posted February 13, 2000 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1AbBIG   Click Here to Email 1AbBIG     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 43346757
hey boss, i like the novacain idea! it is a must to numb the area before going to a bigger area. might have to try that ..LOL!!!!!!!!!

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david3
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posted February 13, 2000 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for david3     Edit/Delete Message
THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED A BUNCH SO DONT TAKE THE FLAMES PERSONAL NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE AN ASS ABOUT IT JUST READ THROUGH THE PREVIOUS POSTS FIRST D3

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Mr. Everyday @ The Gym
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posted February 13, 2000 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Everyday @ The Gym   Click Here to Email Mr. Everyday @ The Gym     Edit/Delete Message
My $.02.

First, why the hell do people think you should increase as you go? Load those receptors up in the first weeks.

Second, why the hell do people think you shoudl take such high dosages? You don't need over 500mg for your first cycle! It's like drinking, if you drink a little and get drunk why drink yourself sober? If you take heavy dosages then your body will only react to heavy dosages. When first starting out, take a little and you body will react to low dosages! More doesn't mean MORE, think of overtraining!

I would tell you to take 500 mg for the first two weeks and 250 mg for the duration of the cycle.

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El_Rey
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posted February 13, 2000 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for El_Rey   Click Here to Email El_Rey     Edit/Delete Message
after what i v been reading about roids (from doctors) i v would be stacking the sust with som anadrol 50 mg/tbl

look what i v found out what was a good cycle
(remember this is taking out of a manual and it is only what experience user have wroted!)


week sustanon250 anadrol 50 mg/tbl
mg/amp
1 1 amp/week 1/2 tbl/day

2 " 1 tabl/day

3 " 1 tabl/day

4 "

5 "

6 2 amp/week

7 1 amp/week 1/2 tabl/day

8 1 amp/week 1 tabl/day

9 2 amp/week 1 tab/day

10 1 amp/week

11 1 amp/week

12 4 ml/week

13 4 ml/week

dont now if u shall take clomid or something on this
please correct me people if this is wrong!

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BIG
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posted February 13, 2000 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG   Click Here to Email BIG     Edit/Delete Message
Wk/Sust/Clomid
1/750/50EOD
2/750/50EOD
3/750/50EOD
4/750/50EOD
5/750/50EOD
6/750/50EOD
7/750/50EOD
8/750/50EOD
9/750/50EOD
10/500/50EOD
11/250/50EOD
12/0-0/50EOD
13/0-0/300mg daily woth Clomid
14/0-0/100mg daily with Clomid
15/0-0/50mg daily with Clomid

You need 30amps with Sustenon for this cycle, and 4-5 boxes with 24x 50mg tabs with Clomid!! - A pretty cheap cycle!!
And i don`t think you need any nolvadex with theese doses with test, and you take 50mg with clom also EOD wich is an anti-e also!!!

Good luck with your cycle anyway bro...and you should pick out what kind of cycle you want yourself - but think over this: Why do 250-500mg with sust and gain 15-20lbs, when you can take 750mg sust and gain 25lbs on the same cycle!! and the sides are almost no different at all with 750mg sust a week compared to 250, the difference are minimal!!!

BIG

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DianaBallBusta
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posted February 13, 2000 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DianaBallBusta   Click Here to Email DianaBallBusta     Edit/Delete Message
300mg clomid? Damn man thats alot. I only use 100mg/day starting the week after my last injection, then 50mg/day for the next two weeks.

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ItalianSweetness
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posted February 13, 2000 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ItalianSweetness     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers with the Q. Thanks still for all the sugestions. Now I am starting to consider puting it off for a while because of the fact my test levels will get fucked up for good maybe.

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Mr. Everyday @ The Gym
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posted February 13, 2000 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Everyday @ The Gym   Click Here to Email Mr. Everyday @ The Gym     Edit/Delete Message
Good thinking.

And to Rey, I doubt a doctor would tell you to take such an illogical cycle.

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Mr. Laredo
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posted February 13, 2000 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Laredo   Click Here to Email Mr. Laredo     Edit/Delete Message

It sure is funny to see you all older fucks picking on an 18 yr. old. I started my first cycle at 18 and now I'm 20 and competing. The guy asked for advice on a Sus cycle, he don't want to hear you guys tell him he is to young. Go for it bro. just don't mega dose like every other idiot.

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heavylifter1
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posted February 13, 2000 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavylifter1     Edit/Delete Message
hey bro,

sorry you got your ass ripped. but these guys are right. look before you leap. read biz's article on BUMP 5 TIMES A DAY

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El_Rey
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posted February 13, 2000 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for El_Rey   Click Here to Email El_Rey     Edit/Delete Message
i dont understand your meaning mr in the gym every day!!! eh could you use other normal synonyms please as u probably hear english isnt at my highest level

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DianaBallBusta
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posted February 13, 2000 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DianaBallBusta   Click Here to Email DianaBallBusta     Edit/Delete Message
Illogical = not thought out; does not make sense; dumb. That better.

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Mr. Everyday @ The Gym
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posted February 13, 2000 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Everyday @ The Gym   Click Here to Email Mr. Everyday @ The Gym     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks DianaBallBusta, saved me a post.

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