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filtheboss
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 125)
posted February 13, 2000 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filtheboss   Click Here to Email filtheboss     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59593173
A-MASS YOU ARE GENIUS:

YOU ARE SO RIGHT AS DOES NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO CAUSE ANY HARM.
BUT TO TRY AND BETTER YOUR BODY TRULY COMPARES YOU TO SOMEONE ELSE BY DEFAULT.
(SOMEONE WHO IS WORSE THAN YOU.) OR TO YOUR OWN SELF, BY DEFINITION A DISSATISFACTION WITH ANY INHERENT PART OF YOU. EITHER WAY YOU ARE AMBITIONING TO BECOME MORE THAN WHAT YOU NOW ARE. SOMETIMES AT ANY PRICE!

ITS REALLY A MATTER OF CHOICE.

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Heemaan445
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posted February 13, 2000 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
agree totally......remember the "be all you can be" commercials for the army..?.....somehow it stuck with me to be the best I can be.....just (nike) do it and the rewards (blowjobs, respect, fastcars..etc) will follow...

So tell me then, what is it that you guys want.....ultimately....? I want to be one of the stongest guys on the planet..(earth)...

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bignate73
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posted February 13, 2000 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message
this topic is a touchy one eh? dayam! think about this...when the constitution was written 200 some odd years ago did they amend it since then? uh huh. have they interpreted laws that were once thought to not have any loopholes and found ways around it? yep. NOW...to look at something from a religious view, one that hasnt been to open for change is just setting yourself up for guilt. go with whats in your heart, if you feel you are good person and are responsible, your decisions wont consume you and you will be able to move forward. If you are unable to make a decision that is comfortable for you, then its better to take the safe route. no flame intended towards any religious types out there, just stating my opinion in the least threatening manner possible. i know how religion is such a sticky subject. whatever your decision bro good luck. oh and KEEP LIFTING!

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted February 13, 2000 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Pauly7,

I am no Bible scholar, and I'm not here to criticize anyone's beliefs. It's funny that in the history of the church, so many have been killed in God's name. The crusades, the Inquisition, Christopher Columbus and the Europeans trying to force Christianity on the natives.

If you beieve in Jesus as Lord, imagine what he would say to all that....probably something like, "You gotta be kidding me - they didn't understand a word".

But regarding your issue, to steroids themselves I attach no moral value. It is what is in your heart, it is why you want to take them, that matters.

If you are taking them to compete, that should not be against Christianity. You are just trying to physically be the best "Pauly7" you can. If you are taking them to beat up your neighbor because the guy won't return your weed-whacker, then I believe that is when the wrongdoing occurs. Steroids themselves have never harmed a single person. People can harm themselves with steroids, if they abuse or misuse them.

To me, it is your intent at the time of decision that matters.

Matt

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TxCollegeguy
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posted February 13, 2000 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxCollegeguy   Click Here to Email TxCollegeguy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 48636409
I think you need to search your own soul for the right answer. Everyone here has good opinions, but when it all comes down to it only your opinion and your relationship to whatever god you worship will give you the right answer to this question.

I faced that question a year ago, when I thought about long term what I had to do inorder to get my body the way I want it. I examined my own faith vs. other choices I've made the right ones and the wrong ones. For me, I felt good about the choice I made cause not only will it help me develop my body to something better, it will also help show what god has blessed me with

Unfortunately because of mans law I have to take risks with getting legit and clean gear inorder to see my dream. One positive note I might have found a exdoctor who will help with setting up a schedule for my first cycle

lucky me I guess

Keep Pumping

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filtheboss
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posted February 13, 2000 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filtheboss   Click Here to Email filtheboss     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59593173
NEW COMMANDMENT JUST IN:
11 THOU SHALT NOT TAKE ANABOLICS, FOR KICKING ASS OR BEATING UP PENCIL NECKS.

FOR REFERENCES:''"SEE SECTION 421 PART 34 CODE 3 UNITED STATES WEANY CODE PARAGRAPH 4.
UNDER NO CIRCIMSTANCES ARE (AS) PERMITTED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF ANY, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CHANGING,GROWING,OR SURPASSING, PHYSICAL LIMITS. INITED KINGDOM LAW CLEARLY SPECIFIES THAT ANY ABERRANT BEHAVIOR WETHER IMPLIED OR SUGGESTED BY PRESUMED PARTY SHALL BE DEMMED REASON ENOUGH TO WARRANT THE IMMEDIATE SUSPENSION OF ALL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
VOID WHERE PROHIBITED. THIS LAW IS ONLY VALID ON EARTH AND NEIGHBORING GALAXY"S.
YOU MUST BE 18 OR OLDER TO QUALIFY FOR IMMUNITY.

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The_Blond_Myth
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posted February 13, 2000 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
Your taking AS to better your health? If taken safely they can be beneficial? Who are you kidding. From the moment you load the syringe to time after a cycle you do nothing but increase health risks. Injection site infection, blood pressure, heart rate, liver damage, hairloss, gyno, addiction...All for muscles man. It ain't about being healthy. Health use is going to the doctor for legitimate shots. Don't play with matches unless your intent is to burn the house down...

LP

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Stone413
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posted February 13, 2000 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stone413   Click Here to Email Stone413     Edit/Delete Message
DON'T LISTEN TO ALL THIS HYPE. I'm a Christian too, and if you want the answer, God says to come to Him first. Pray about it. He'll let you know what to do.

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E2
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posted February 13, 2000 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Fuck guys this is so damn easy, you're christian, so take the damn juice get huge and if you feel bad for it go to church and confess your sins, be absolved and everythign is fine!

CASE CLOSED!!!!


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skinnyguy
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posted February 13, 2000 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skinnyguy   Click Here to Email skinnyguy     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guy, I believe too. I think if you prayed about it and its allowed by God for you then do it. Don't abuse it, make sure you have all the protection drugs too. Nolvadex, clomid, HCG to come off. Plus, extra supplements besides. A well thought out cycle will cost an easy 500$ for everything, not including GH

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pauly7
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posted February 14, 2000 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauly7   Click Here to Email pauly7     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for all the replies I really appreciate them. I have already been praying about but am still waiting on the answer, I know it will come. Thanks again!

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Joseph_stalin
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posted February 14, 2000 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i'm telling you, you're confusing man's laws with god's laws. Some people think that fighting in a war is less of a sin than using heroin recreationally. in one, you are killing on command due to peer pressure (basically), in the other you are expanding your consciousness. You don't feel this way about aspirin do you? That your body is a temple, etc. Aspirins are just as unnatural to the body as AAS, they just aren't demonized by US.

Think about it for a minute, its true. we do alot of unnatural stuff. technology is unnatural. Anti-biotics are just as unnatural to the body as juice. They also do the same thing. They make certain parts of your body stronger (immune system) because you prefer having your life that way.

man's law, my friend. Religion has been confusing man's laws and god's laws since the beginning. Burning heretics was about men and their predujices, not god.

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pauly7
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posted February 14, 2000 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauly7   Click Here to Email pauly7     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the reply joseph it was very interesting!

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vinman6967
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posted February 14, 2000 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vinman6967     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone who wants a better body to get more
pussy is a hethan right?!?! {grin}

Vinman

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ASSFACE
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posted February 14, 2000 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ASSFACE   Click Here to Email ASSFACE     Edit/Delete Message
GOD IS ALL AROUND YOU. WITHOUT GOD, there is no gravity to make the weights heavy. without the muscles god created to lift the weights, there is no bodybuilding or powerlifting. If you get bigger, you have more of Gods muscle. If you lift more weight you will be able to lift more of God. By being bigger and stonger, I am able to bring God close to my heart, and help me get 405 off my neck because my spotter sucks.

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"I went to the gym today because I dont want to spend the rest of my life knowing I could have been one day bigger!" - ASSFACE

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skinnyguy
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posted February 14, 2000 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skinnyguy   Click Here to Email skinnyguy     Edit/Delete Message
I wouldn't listen to the devil guy, he's a definite hypocrite. Saying he respects evrything peolple have to say, and flaming others. Ignore him.

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JUICESEEKER
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posted February 14, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUICESEEKER   Click Here to Email JUICESEEKER     Edit/Delete Message
YOU KNOW THAT IS ONE OF THE BEST INQUIRIES I
HAVE SEEN POSTED LATELY. I AM IN SOMEWHAT
IN THE SAME DILEMA. I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE
ROIDS IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS CRACK, COCAINE,
HEROIN OR OTHER MIND ALTERING DRUGS. BUT
ROIDS DO HAVE SOME BODY POLLUTING EFFECTS.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION ON THE
MATTER. I GUESS IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT
COUNTRY YOUR IN. MOST MIND ALTERING DRUGS ARE
ILLEGAL IN MOST COUNTRIES, BUT STEROIDS ARE
LEGAL IN MANY COUNTRIES.

JUST MY THOUGHT GUY.

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Mr. T
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posted February 14, 2000 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
You can't live your entire life asking yourself what God thinks is right. Do what you think is right. If your a good person, you will be fine. If there is a "God", I seriously doubt he will make someone burn in the fiery flames of hell for taking some extra testoterone.

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Iron Mike
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posted February 14, 2000 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iron Mike     Edit/Delete Message
A-Mass - very right indeed!!! You certainly have studied, as have I. A pity more people don't know this, eh? As for AS and christianity - forget about whether it is unchristian, sit down and do some thinking about whether or not YOU think it goes against YOUR beliefs. If it does (and well it may) don't do it. Train natural. But then, vanity might be construed as what we all pursue by lifting weights, in which case you'd better stop dead. IronMike

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pauly7
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posted February 15, 2000 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauly7   Click Here to Email pauly7     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for all the replies, does anyone else have anything to say on this?

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Ripper
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posted February 15, 2000 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ripper   Click Here to Email Ripper     Edit/Delete Message
Dude....go for it!!!Bible does not judge roids...or does it???


Train until you bleed!!!Build BIG "temple"!

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2Thick
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posted February 15, 2000 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Once you have studied enough sociology and philosophy, you will not be so burdened with this question anymore. It is all much simpler once you know the truth.

Jon

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pauly7
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posted February 15, 2000 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pauly7   Click Here to Email pauly7     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks ripper and 2thick for the replies I appreciate them. 2thick can you go a little more in detail, without going to deep? thanks again.

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