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androx
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posted February 11, 2000 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for androx   Click Here to Email androx     Edit/Delete Message
I am looking to pack on some serious size. Right now I am 6'2" weighing 240lbs. I am looking at this cycle. Please let me know what you think. Or any advice on changes you would make.

Week Ref-B Deca sos250 clomid
1 75mg 400mg 500mg 50mg EOD
2 75mg 400mg 500mg 50mg EOD
3 100mg 400mg 500mg 50mg EOD
4 100mg 400mg 500mg 50mg EOD
5 100mg 400mg 500mg 50mg EOD
6 75mg 400mg 750mg 50mg EOD
7 75mg 400mg 750mg 50mg EOD
8 50mg 400mg 500mg 50mg EOD
9 -- 400mg 250mg 50mg EOD
10 -- 400mg 250mg 50mg EOD
11 -- 300mg -- 100mg ED
12 -- 200mg -- 100mg ED
13 -- -- -- 50mg ED
14 -- -- -- 50mg EOD

Then start taking clen.
Opinions greatly appreciated.
androx

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E2
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posted February 11, 2000 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Looks good to me, you should pack on some nice size with that.


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Big Brother Val
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posted February 11, 2000 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Damn good one, bro. Get ready to swell.

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mr_Blond
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posted February 11, 2000 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mr_Blond   Click Here to Email mr_Blond     Edit/Delete Message
I'm no expert but I think the test levels are a little low and I dont think you need to taper the SUS it's actually a self tapering blend. The Ref is a little high but what the hell?...I guess you have your reasons but if it were me I would raise the test to at least 750mg and probably a 1000mg a week throughout and lower the Ref some. Start your Clens in weeks 13 & 14, eat like a MF, train hard as hell and get lots of sleep. You'll grow!

Bark Lil Doggy

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BigCatratcho
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posted February 11, 2000 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message
Why are you taking so much Clomid?

I always considered it a end of cycle supplement. To reduce est reception, and get your nuts working again.

Wouldn't you start taking it at week 4?

Any other opinions?

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Big Brother Val
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posted February 11, 2000 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Using the clomid works as an anti estrogen. Doing this should provent gyno, so you won't have to use nolvadex, which may inhibit gains. Using it eod during your cycle helps, trust me I know from experience (thanks to Mac) stopped my gyno symptoms. Then up it to 100 mgs every day for a week at the end, then down to 50 mgs. a day for the second week after.

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BigCatratcho
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posted February 11, 2000 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message
so it doesn't inhibit gains like the Novladex does?

that's cool.

I've really just read the theories of Nov and Clomid. I like to hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

uh, not that Val is a horse. thanks.

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androx
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posted February 11, 2000 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for androx   Click Here to Email androx     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for your opinions. I'll let you know how this works out for me.

androx

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DoctorSavage
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posted February 11, 2000 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DoctorSavage   Click Here to Email DoctorSavage     Edit/Delete Message
Awsome cycle. I wouldn't put that much D-Bol into me, but I'm delicate. You might want to line up some Milk Thistle extract to help your liver, or failing that, evening primrose oil. And drink lots of water. With all that Sust and Clomid, you will want to line up a VERY willing girlfriend or two as well.

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Dr. Savage, PhD. (I am not a bodybuilder, amature or otherwise)

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androx
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posted February 11, 2000 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for androx   Click Here to Email androx     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone think I should use less Reforvit and more sostenon? Or make any other changes for that matter?

Thanks Again,
androx

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Big Brother Val
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posted February 11, 2000 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Personally, I'd back down on reforveit. I'd only take around 30-50 mgs. a day of that, and maybe take the Sust up to 750 a little quicker. But it looks damn good in my opinion. It may not hurt to have some nolvadex on hand, just in case. But your clomid should keep you safe.

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mr_Blond
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posted February 11, 2000 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mr_Blond   Click Here to Email mr_Blond     Edit/Delete Message
I think Big Val is right, 30mg to 50mg a day on the Ref is a little more reasonable than 75mg to 100mg...and at 240lbs you deffinatly should up the SUS.

Bark Lil Doggy

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androx
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posted February 11, 2000 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for androx   Click Here to Email androx     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info bros
androx

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