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snowflake
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posted February 09, 2000 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for snowflake   Click Here to Email snowflake     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55804542
i have to post this since u really tell me how dangerous ghb is......read this
and then discuss it plz( i whould like to learn a lot of things like this)

READ THIS AND I THINK WE COULD DRAW AN LINE OVER THIS CASE...or ??

Make no mistake, GHB can cause pain, expense, and tragedy if misused. You, of course, are not going to misuse it.


Many sources do report toxic and dangerous effects [37,38], [48], [70], but these are nearly inevitably caused by coingestion of other drugs (often alcohol), massive overdoses, or highly impure product. Others report effects that are inconsistent with many years of research and observation, and appear entirely fanciful [60].

ADDICTION
If you consider yourself "addicted" to chocolate, driving fast, or pro wrestling, you might find yourself in the same state with GHB. Physiological addiction, on the other hand, appears largely absent, as demonstrated by the above studies and others. Users have sometimes reported adverse physiological effects, but these resolve in 3-12 days without sequelae [33], and seem localized to users of very high or frequent doses (an figure often casually tossed out is 30g/day)

My recommendation is to restrict yourself (unless you are under medical supervision or another structured program of therapeutic use) to two doses a day, no more than four days a week, and I would consider even that to be quite excessive.

OTHER DANGERS
PLEASE, FOR MY SAKE IF NOT THAT OF YOUR OWN PRECIOUS LIFE, DO NOT EVER TAKE GHB AND ALCOHOL WITHIN A FEW HOURS OF EACH OTHER! The same goes for any tranquilizer or depressant.

Finally, I must note one more circumstance under which GHB can be wildly dangerous: when it is not GHB. Thanks to its governmental prohibition, most GHB now comes from what the FDA calls "clandestine labs" [13], but clandestine kitchens might be closer. Sodium hydroxide, used in GHB synthesis, is essentially lye, and there is at least one case of serious lung injury caused GHB that contained significant quantities


How much should I take?

First, seriously consider "none." GHB may be "clean*"; GHB may be safer and less toxic than alcohol; GHB may be a generally benign drug - but it is still a drug and the decision to put it into your brain should be made with respect and caution. I intend to provide the information to ensure that those who choose to employ it can do so safely, but I do not want to make it seem too casual.

If you have decided to try it, the first step is to find your dose. I will express doses in grams*, although the most readily available way to measure liquid is by volume (usually teaspoons*) from a liquid solution of known concentration. This is yet another reason to make your own GHB. After performing the synthesis, you should know exactly how much you have, and can then dissolve it in water and dilute it to any volume you please, setting up a ratio to determine how much is in any one measure.

Begin on a day when you have taken no other drugs, have several hours to spare, and can count on someone to look after you and know how to react if you doze (answer: turn you face-down and leave you alone). Take no more than 1g, and for several hours observe the effects carefully.

If you desire something stronger, and do not feel yourself irresistibly tranquilized, the next night you can increase the dose by a gram, and continue until you reach an optimal level. Many people do use it as a sleep aid; Mamelak et al. determined that it is "potentially useful for the large number of patients who have difficulty falling asleep but who once asleep are able to remain so."[4]

A note on "dose-boosting" - GHB takes 15-30 minutes to begin to manifest and may take over an hour to come to full strength. It is important to refrain from trying to increase its effects by taking more. You will be making such a decision with clouded judgment to begin with, and by the time the combined doses reach peak blood levels they may be more than you can handle.


[This message has been edited by snowflake (edited February 09, 2000).]

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Adonis
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posted February 09, 2000 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adonis   Click Here to Email Adonis     Edit/Delete Message
Didn't you just answere your original question on GHB ?

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E2
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posted February 09, 2000 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
What's your point snowFLAKE? What do you think this article from "bob's weekly handout" proves??

E2

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snowflake
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posted February 09, 2000 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for snowflake   Click Here to Email snowflake     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55804542
adonis yes a did but this is a discuission board. this is my opinion and what i v red.
i dont know what but ahhhh ...do i have to explain

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snowflake
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posted February 09, 2000 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for snowflake   Click Here to Email snowflake     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55804542
to prove i m here to discuss and learn
Fe3 said it like UR GONNE DIE WHENM TAKING GHB.....(tha ...i dont think the ranger gonne like this yogi!)thats wrong and how i see it when he says it like this he gotto be sertain of what he s talking about ,,,but he isnt(he posted longer down)

people who r going to try and see what he wrotes (will not)

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 09, 2000 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
SNOWFLAKE if posting someone else's arugment is the only way that you can make a coherent statement- Then so be it. please try to keep your posts with your own thought and comments to a minimum since your grasp of the english language is very poor at best- at least spend more time typing, because looking at the gibberish you post is very annoying

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The Ranger
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posted February 09, 2000 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message
How the Hell did I get into this.......and what the Hell is yogi..................shit!!!!


Ranger

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snowflake
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posted February 09, 2000 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for snowflake   Click Here to Email snowflake     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55804542
WHo the hell are u Ranger and what the fuck is *Tjihi*

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WorkinOnIt
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posted February 09, 2000 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WorkinOnIt   Click Here to Email WorkinOnIt     Edit/Delete Message
Some people just weren't born with the ability of coherent, meaningful means of communication. 'Sucks to be you SNOWFLAKE.

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The Ranger
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posted February 09, 2000 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message
Snowflakey,
You mentioned me one post up.....but......then again coming from someone who has the I.Q. of a cricket, and trying to decipher your senseless babbling, I guess you've forgotten. I surmise your mommy and daddy left you all alone and you crave the extra attention your not getting at home. I can only hope your language is much better than your typing....PS......Is that your head, or...is your pencil neck trying to blow a bubble!!!

Please don't try to respond....I've had enough laughing for one day!!!

Ranger

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Adonis
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posted February 09, 2000 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adonis   Click Here to Email Adonis     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, shit Ranger, my Abs are cramping.....ouch

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Big Brother Val
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posted February 09, 2000 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Gosh, Ranger... don't beat around the bush. What do you really think about the Flake? You mean to say he's not making any sense? I don't think you're being fair. Just because he has Wannabesmarterthanyouitis, or was it Forcemypointdownyourthroatatosis? In any case, it doesn't mean we should express any content for the man, am I right?

Wait..... can you smell that?
There's a lot of love in this room.
-John Candy
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The Ranger
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posted February 09, 2000 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message
****************< GRIN > *****************************

Ranger

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madbomber31
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posted February 09, 2000 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
hey snowflake... FE3 didnt make ghb out to be super villain, in fact, i am pretty sure he has tried it himself.. i think his entire point was that nothing is truly without risks.

have fun fellas

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OKIE
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posted February 09, 2000 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OKIE     Edit/Delete Message
I'm by no means taking Snowflake's side Ranger, but I don't think he meant to mention you earlier. I believe he was referring to Yogi the Bear. Hehehe.

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Deepsquat
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posted February 09, 2000 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
Goddamn Ranger sometimes I think you are almost as funny as me!

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scourge1
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posted February 09, 2000 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scourge1   Click Here to Email scourge1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 2877127
Recombinant GHB just got Class III'ed.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 09, 2000 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
I guess if he was reffering to yogi bear that makes him "boo boo". I think that's his name I havent watched cartoons in about 15 years unless you count heavy metal and some of the disney movie cartoons- price you pay for having a girlfriend- thank god no kids or it would be power rangers and teletubbies as well- but then again thats still a small price to pay.

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