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chestyII Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 87) |
posted February 09, 2000 09:52 AM
  
I was looking though a MF mag and found an article by Chis Aceto on the ketogenic diet. It was August 1997 page 76. In short it is low carbs, low fat, high protein With possible cycling every 5-7 days by upping the carbs to above 200gms a day. Good article and good references at the end. Chesty IP: Logged |
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KGW Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 19) |
posted February 09, 2000 10:54 AM
I don't know how good a idea it is to cut carbs and fat at the same time. But Aceto is a pretty smart dude so what the fuck do I know. Give it a try, see what happens IP: Logged |
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devrimbal Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37) |
posted February 09, 2000 10:57 AM
My response to that article FUCK THAT ARTICLE It's nonsense. Try it and go to the gym and watch your self get fucked when you can't even move a single plate. Then you'll aggree with me. Trust me. That article is nonsense. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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devrimbal Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37) |
posted February 09, 2000 10:59 AM
One more thing, let's ask ACETO if he followed that diet all his life when he was growing his tissue. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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massmonster2 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted February 09, 2000 11:06 AM
Devrimbal is oh so right on that!!! The first year I competed I listened to a so-called expert. Cut the fat and carbs!! Well listen to this. I started out at a good 227 and stepped on stage at 189 of flat watery muscle. Do you know how long it takes to get back the Muscle that you lost. Not the water, the muscle! A long time. Do not do it or you will look like a skinny twig with no strength. Stay big IP: Logged |
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chestyII Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 87) |
posted February 09, 2000 11:18 AM
I do agree with the above, you can't cut the fat out of or reduce to a super low value. I remember when I used to keep my fat intake to 15% or less, protein at 1gm lbf/bw and carbs at 60% total calories. I couldn't lose dick! Then believe it or not I switched to a 40-30-30 diet, changed my carb types to low gycemic and doubled or more my fat intake. Bam! My fat started to disappear. My body had forgotten how to metabolize fat. I find that keeping the fat around 20-30% works quite well, I taper it off (cut it down) for the last month before going onstage. I do agree with the article on the potential for fat loss, but the fact that your energy levels drop drastically, it is I believe harder to metabolize fat than carbs or protein, therefore more energy is required to burn fat, therefore you get tire more quickly if all you have for energy is fat stores. So, if you use this type of diet,I would cycle on and off. Say 5 on 2 off, but on the off days don't go nuts, just to 400-500 carbs a day, then back down to 150-200 (all low glycemic). And watch the fat intake! If I can figure out how to scan in the article I will do it and post it for all to read. Let me check with moderators to be sure it is legal to do so. IP: Logged |
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Joseph_stalin Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted February 09, 2000 11:20 AM
the anabolic diet works. If you eat when you are hungry you will probably have more energy than you would if you ate controlled doses of food. I normally need 3000 cals a day, but on the anabolic diet, i only ate 1600, because that is all i wanted. i also had more energy. so i was probably using 3500 daily. ONe problem with the anabolic diet, you might get a growth of intramuscular fat after you go off. there are at least 2 types of fat in the body, subcutaneous (fat that attaches to the skin. this is the type of fat that most people mean when they say fat) and intramuscular (fat that attaches to the muscle). If you gain intramuscular fat your muscles will appear to grow but you won't be stronger. All your muscles. 20 lbs. of intramuscular fat will make your waist 4 inches bigger, arms 1 1/2, legs 2, chest 3. You won't appear fat on the outside though. because intramuscular fat just makes you look more muscular than you are. It sounds good, but your waist grows the most. you can have little subcut fat but still have a 40 inch waist if u have enough intramuscular fat. IP: Logged |
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jc21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 93) |
posted February 09, 2000 02:16 PM
If you plan on doing a low carb diet, you wont have any energy, but you will lose fat as long as you do cardio. but make sure you dont go into ketosis, or you wontburn any fat and your muscles will suffer. Use keosticks to test for that. good luck IP: Logged |
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chestyII Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 87) |
posted February 14, 2000 02:13 PM
I have upped my carbs from 100 a day to 200 a day and my energy levels have skyrocketed. I also feel much fuller in the muscles than before. I feel that even at 200 gms I will still lose the weight I need and maintain the size. On a side note, after a week of higher carbs I blew out my ass last night. Pissed through it for 10 minutes straight. Yeeek! IP: Logged |
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vinman6967 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted February 14, 2000 02:20 PM
I know several people going the ultra low Dr. Atkins carbo. deprivation way to lose the fat and then trying to lift. Not ONE of them will dare go to the gym and lift for strength 'cause they are too run down. Everything has it's limits and it's purpose.. if depriving your body until it eats itself alive works for you go for it. To each his own... It would never work for this carbo. junkie.. But me size/strength don't show it {grin} --Vinman IP: Logged |
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DianaBallBusta Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 163) |
posted February 14, 2000 04:37 PM
I'm on a cutting cycle right now and I try to take in about 200 carbs a day. I find I can still lose bodyfat and keep my strength. Sounds like its working for you too bro. Can't wait to finish this up in 3 weeks then start my cycle. IP: Logged |
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WCP Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 94) |
posted February 14, 2000 06:11 PM
Aceto, has some good points, but in the latest Flex he suggests ingesting only 1g of carbs per kilo of bodyweight, which would drop me down to like 95g a day...WAY TOO LOW!!!!!! 150 is as low as I go, and thats a gradual taper throughout a 12week diet plan. Hell dont run from fats, just dont take in any excess fat that dont occur naturally in foods, at least thats how I do it. I rely alot on Omega3 fats from flax and fish oil which I supplement everyday, this helps out alot with my cutting diets. I think its a live and learn situation for all people, after the first time someone reads that and tries to live on 90g of carbs a day, and loses a ton of muscle and badly needed energy they will learn. Bleed Iron Bros, Later. IP: Logged |
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