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xrciseink
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 58)
posted February 09, 2000 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xrciseink     Edit/Delete Message
Did you know that 85% of the people who use illegal drugs, IE:cocaine, extasy....don't agree with steroid use?? In fact the study I read said that these people think that using steroids is a cop out for people who have no discipline to build muscle. Out of the 85% that were asked how long it would take them to build a shredded physique (5% bodyfat), 80% said they could do it within 3 months, and half of that number felt they were in good shape. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE! Unfortuantely, 85% of people dont work out, so this number represents 3/4 of what the popualtion really believes. I believe these numbers....I know a lot of people that party, drink, smoke....and all of them think that steroids will kill you and are totally against them. Not only that, they really believe that they have superior genetics, and that they could achieve phenomial results just by going to the gym for three months, even though they have never worked out. How will bodybuilding ever be recognised with the majority believing such nonsense. The worst is, they were never taught this, they just believe it themselves. I wish there was a way to make these people see what dip shits they are. Any suggestions? I just cant comprehend how so many that will use coke, pot, etc....can have this opinion...makes me want to kick their ass from here to kingdom come. Just a rant, but dam there is nothing worse than having some piece of shit doing a line up his nose talking shit about what losers people who use juice are. I know turn the cheek, but its not easy.

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Lee wanna B
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 37)
posted February 09, 2000 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lee wanna B     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with you 110%. I know some people like that. Honestly there really isn't much that you can do. You have to just say whatever. You can't make them believe if they don't want to. And, the wide concensus about steroids is so negative. It has been the public that really destroyed/destroys AS. I don't know how people can think that cocaine and even alcohol are better for you than AS. They are uneducated. But let it go. I know that I will be over them. So I don't care about it anymore. Some people will just never understand.

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WarLobo
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 130)
posted February 09, 2000 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
Talk about futility! The time will come when the facts and benefits of proper roid use will be accepted, but that will be many years down the road.

Some contributing elements that I believe will help "normalize" roids is the aids situation, the continuing aging of American men and there quest to stay young (testo patches) and the need for NASA to keep people from wasting away during extended space stays. The trip to Mars is some three years and you bet your ass they are going to have to workout or they will die from sever wasting, bone loss, and many other long term effects of weightlessness.

We can hope right???

LAte

Lobo

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halfcutz
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 9)
posted February 09, 2000 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halfcutz   Click Here to Email halfcutz     Edit/Delete Message
"ewwww, you juice man, your gonna die."
Get your fat lazy ass of the couch or out the bar, put the big mac down, and come lift with me one day. Then tell me who is going to die sooner.

Right on Bro!

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MattTheSkywalker
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 122)
posted February 09, 2000 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Bros,

Lobo made a good point that AS may come to be understood better as the opportunities for testosterone therapy emerge. There's a good article on this at www.brinkzone.com the website of Musclemag columnist Will Brink.

As for now, there are some tremendous misconceptions. There is a notion that roids are a "cheat" that will suddenly make you huge, like a newbie at the gym could just become Ronnie Coleman on one cycle. I mean, how many posts have we seen on this board that say "first and only cycle"? Quite a few. What do these people think will happen?

This inaccurate belief, coupled with just plain envy that my body looks great and theirs looks like shit, leads to the snide "It's all roids" comments, among gym members who have neither the dedication nor the intensity to create the body they (deep down) really want. Because if I put these people through my training sessions and diets, they'd quit.

To which I say, simply, "Fuck you". I say this because I don't have the time or the desire to explain the de-mythologize steroids to everyone that looks at me funny.

Knowledge is power. I acquired as much knowledge as I could beofre I went on the first time, and I am on this board all the time looking for more.

Later,

Matt

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WCP
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 68)
posted February 09, 2000 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message
The only way those morons are going to achieve results like that is to become one of those cheesy airbrushed computer enhanced before and after 9week photos for crappy ass supplement ads in magazines. LOOK AT ME I WENT FROM 82%BODYFAT TO 6 IN JUST 9 WEEKS, THANX TO SLOB AWAY RF16, AND IVE KEPT IT OFF. Give me a break.

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filtheboss
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 44)
posted February 09, 2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filtheboss   Click Here to Email filtheboss     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59593173
MAYBE A BETTER QUESTION WOULD BE HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE THEM TO STOP USING DRUGS AND THEN ASK THEM, WHEN THEY ARE DETOXING.
THEY WILL MOST DEFINITELY CHANGE THEIR ANSWER
OK SO ITS NOT FAIR TO EXPLOIT THEIR ANSWERS AT THAT MOMENT BUT ITS ALSO NOT FAIR TO INCLUDE A VIEW ABOUT A MATTER WHILE A PERSON IS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A MIND ALTERING DRUG AND I DONT MEAN ROIDS(JUST IN CASE) FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE THEY GET MORE AGRRESIVE WHILE USING THEM). ONE ANALOGY MIGHT BE THAT IF ONE INJECTS 500MG OF A GOOD RIOD AND ONE DIDN'T HAVE THE BALLS TO WALK UP TO SOMEONE PRIOR TO THAT AND INSULT THEM, THEN NEITHER WOULD ONE DO IT AFTERWARD. HOWEVER IF ONE DRANK A FEW SHOTS OF XYZ LIQUOR OR SOME OTHER DRUG THEN ONE MIGHT GET COCKY AND DO IT. ANYWAY EVEN THOSE ON DRUGS HAVE AN OPINION AND THE IMAGINATION CAN TAKE A PERSON ANYWHERE. BUT THATS ABOUT ALL IT DOES IF NO ACTION IS TAKEN.

PASS ME A DRINK, ERR... I MEAN SYRINGE!
MY FIRST CYCLE...
THEN I MAY

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david3
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 44)
posted February 09, 2000 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for david3     Edit/Delete Message
IT IS EASY TO SAY WHO CARES WHAT ANYONE ELSE THINKS I WILL DO WHAT I WANT. BUT UNTIL ALL THE A**HOLES PUT DOWN THEIR DOPE,BEER,SMOKES,WHATEVER WE WILL NEVER BE LEGAL.

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snowflake
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 71)
posted February 09, 2000 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for snowflake   Click Here to Email snowflake     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55804542
jucing aint better then taking drugs if u do it all proprly. cockaine ROX and so do MDMA
but only on times like happy new year ect.
thats my oppinion.

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madbomber31
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 163)
posted February 09, 2000 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
wow, no wonder you have gathered so much respect around here snowflake... i have an idea for ya... just an experiment... dissolve some coke in your ghb, and shoot it down with tequila... but dont forget the salt and lemon or it would all be ruined.

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