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BigQuadz
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 08, 2000 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigQuadz   Click Here to Email BigQuadz     Edit/Delete Message
Here we go, tell me if this sounds good
Week

10mg of Nolvadex from week 2-9

1= 250mg Sust, 200mg Equipoise
2= 500mg Sust, 300mg Eq
3= 500mg Sust, 300mg Eq
4= 500mg Sust, 400mg Eq
5= 500mg Sust, 400mg Eq
6= 500mg Sust, 400mg Eq
7= 500mg Sust, 300mg Eq
8= 250mg Sust, 200mg Eq, 2500iu HCG, 50mg Clomid per day
9= 2500iu HCG, 50mg Clomid per day

Sound like a good plan. I am staying low MG's on the sust since it is my first time.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 08, 2000 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
looks good to me dosage wise- though I am not a big fan of tapering. up or down.
considering the release pattern of sust I would hit 750 week 1, 500 week 2-8, your eq doses seem fine. I would drop the novaldex and you clomid instead. considering the release pattern of sust I would continue clomid through week 12 maybe week 13. I am not a bid fan of hcg but if you decide to use use it in the middle of cycle to keep nuts swoll-up (is that a word, you know what I mean). this does follow a very traditional pattern- but one that I think could be improved upon.

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cpsbigdaddy
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posted February 08, 2000 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpsbigdaddy   Click Here to Email cpsbigdaddy     Edit/Delete Message
My Bro and i have taken Eq. and got great gains. we are currently cycling with test and deca. But our next cycle is Sus. What is the best stack you have heard of?

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E2
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posted February 08, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I would say macro is right about the sust doseage and dropping the novaldex, but i would instead of the hcg take clomid 50mg eod all through the cycle, if you're worried about your balls shrinking that'll stop it. Then at the end i would only start the clomid at 100mg/day at week 9. then continue at 10, 11, 12, at 50mg/day

E2

[This message has been edited by E2 (edited February 09, 2000).]

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BigQuadz
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posted February 09, 2000 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigQuadz   Click Here to Email BigQuadz     Edit/Delete Message
The clomid won't hurt my gains bad will it? Also would it wouldn't hurt to throw that HCG in maybe 2500 in the middle and 2500 at the end, or just 2500 for 2 weeks at the end?

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Lee wanna B
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posted February 09, 2000 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lee wanna B     Edit/Delete Message
Bro, take some deca with it. I did a cycle of Sust only and gained some. Take them both. Also, I don't think you need to ramp either one of these either. I would keep the dosage of Sust at 500mgs/week and the deca between 300-400mgs/week. These both last in the body for a while after your last injection, so they will taper themselves off.

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WarLobo
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posted February 09, 2000 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
NOW HERE IS A CYCLE WE CAN WORK WITH!

Good job on doing your homework Quads.

I agree with many points from Macro & E2. Don't taper up the sust, hit it big off the top and then maintain. And susts is "self tapering at the end. Also the clomid eod is the way to go and extend the clomid a bit at the end. I have an article from Animal about hcg that I'll try and dig up and post for everyone to mull over. It did change my view. And I've not used it in over a year...still have 4 vials in my "war chest"

Late

Lobo

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