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B182
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posted February 08, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for B182     Edit/Delete Message
Why is it steroids are supposed to be intramuscular injections? Are subcutaneous injections less effective? How/why? I know this is a lot of questions, but any input would be appreciated! I ask because i hate intramuscular injections; they hurt like a SOB. Also, if anyone here has used finny, what is the preferred method: dmso or forming into injectable solution? Thanks in Advance.

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scourge
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posted February 08, 2000 12:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message
For the Finny, DMSO. Assuming you can handle smelling like a wet dog that eats garlic.

AS's are best used intramuscular because it allows the body to process it slower and more eefciently. Just dumping into the bloodstream means the body uses what it can right then and there and the rest just gets washed out.

I'm pretty sure thats the flow of everything I've read without going too deeply into it.

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B182
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posted February 08, 2000 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for B182     Edit/Delete Message
By subcutaneous I meant into fat, not muscle..like when you pinch some skin and inject there-they dont hurt at all. Doesnt the fat hold it in equally as well as muscle?

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2 Big
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posted February 08, 2000 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2 Big     Edit/Delete Message
Bump!

I would like to know too

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big_guy1
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posted February 08, 2000 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
by finny I assume you mean fina...I would make an injecatble, more effetive then dmso in my opiniion...get a kit and make it an injecatble...

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Platinum
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posted February 08, 2000 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Platinum   Click Here to Email Platinum     Edit/Delete Message
Ok first, most AS's are oil based, if you inject them into fat you will not get the proper absorption that you need because it is going to stay in the fat at varying rates. You want to inject into muscle because you will get a slow, and the key word here is steady, rate of absorption into your bloodstream. Your body will dump all the unused steroid right out. I say suck it up and if you don't like deep IM injections stick with the orals and blow out your liver.

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Adonis
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posted February 08, 2000 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adonis   Click Here to Email Adonis     Edit/Delete Message
Shit, you mean you guy's have fat to inject into ? you guy's better get on the spacial K diet and pinch an inch

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B182
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posted February 08, 2000 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B182     Edit/Delete Message
Big_guy1: Injectable form does get more of the actual trenbolone in(100% actually)-but the problem with the "kit" is that you're also injecting methanol into your body; not good. There are other methods of forming into an injectable sans methanol. DMSO method is estimated to get only about 40% of it through; not including swamp gas breath, rashes... ive never used it before, but may possibly. Ive heard mixed results with DMSO, thats why im asking. The biggest con on making an injectible is keeping it %100 sterile; big health risk if its not. Anyonehere made their own injectable finny?

Adonis: LOL-I'm at 4% by hydrostatic weighing. Having fat to perform Sub-cu's to doesnt necessarily indicate obesity; otherwise ALL diabetics and TB vaccination recipeints would be obese.

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B182
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posted February 09, 2000 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for B182     Edit/Delete Message
ttt

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2 Big
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posted February 09, 2000 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2 Big     Edit/Delete Message
So what about water based winny or test susp.
Can you use that subcut.?

My glutes really get hard on the winny to such an extent, that I have to hammer the needle in after a few weeks of using.

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B182
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posted February 09, 2000 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B182     Edit/Delete Message
Another factor to consider is the AS's half life; I would think stuff like trenbolone, which pretty much is metabolized out of blood serum in about a day would be OK to inject subcutaneously; because of that there'd really be no point in doing it in the muscle I would think. On the otherhand I would see the benefit of doing stuff like sustenon into muscle, if muscle tissue does really release it over a longer period of time. Any more opinions?

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