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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514)	posted February 10, 2000 11:56 PM I GoTtA BuMp ThIs OnE- ------------------ MP IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514)	posted February 12, 2000 02:50 PM I dont think this trhead is quite dead yet bump-keep 17aa oral consumption alive!!! ------------------ MP IP: Logged
quenepo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156)	posted February 12, 2000 09:23 PM Good topic Bump quenepo IP: Logged
Iean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted February 13, 2000 04:06 AM should I eat the grass or blend it up with 10% glycerol and inject it to get extra chlorophyll in my diet? Ok macrophage I have a little homework for you to do. Tell me why I should inject it insteaf of eating it. (Hint: I do not have something) If you get this right then I am going to be your Valentine and send you a Liter of TEST because I know of your infatuation with test. IP: Logged
bignate73 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44)	posted February 13, 2000 05:28 AM itll never make it to your bloodstream because you dont have the enzyme to process said plant goodies. if you eat it you will just get roughage to poop out. so what you are getting at is the fact that you need specific enzymes to process specific compounds hence the reason for injection and not oral ingestion. the fact that some enzymes just arent in the gi tract? point taken. as for the question has been answered re:winny drinking....uh...i forgot. [This message has been edited by bignate73 (edited February 13, 2000).] IP: Logged
bignate73 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44)	posted February 13, 2000 05:37 AM oh yeah, im gonna drink that liter of test too....so mail it with a packet of kool-aid. =) IP: Logged
El_Rey Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37)	posted February 13, 2000 08:41 AM 17 .. steroids like daina ect are MADE TO DO IT ORALLY like the deca 19... stuff ARE MADE TO DO IT injectALLY!!! I dont know but i v red it and I belive it! IP: Logged
Primo57 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 194)	posted February 13, 2000 11:46 AM Ignorance is not a virtue; if you honestly have no knowledge of organic or biochemistry; or even how 17-Alkylated cyclic compounds work, please refrain from posting a reply IP: Logged
SenorSwole Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36)	posted February 13, 2000 11:57 AM hey bros...the main reason I would not drink winny is because it is so fucking expensive and if you drink it it will definately lose some of its effectiveness as it is digested......also...injections allow for the medication to enter the system much faster and with full effectiveness.....I would say, don't drink winny unless you are a wealthy bastard that can affored to bump up the dosage to account for ineffectiveness IP: Logged
Iean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted February 13, 2000 10:01 PM Bump! >> Macro ,answer please. IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514)	posted February 13, 2000 11:35 PM could you be a little more specific- are you anemic? As far as I know chorophyll is absorbed rather well by the human digestive system. Are you attempting to replace hemoglobin with Chlorophyll? Obviously, the two structures are very similar. The most apparent difference between them is that the porphyrin ring of hemoglobin is built around iron (Fe), while the porphyrin ring of chlorophyll is built around magnesium (Mg). The chemical similarity between hemoglobin and chlorophyll was first suggested by Verdel in 1855, and specifically demonstrated in the early 1920s. In the twenty years that followed, a considerable amount of research was done to see if the two substances were interconvertible in the body. The claim that chlorophyll and hemoglobin are directly interchangeable is oversimplifying the relationship between these two complex molecules. Chlorophyll been shown to aid in the genesis of Hemoglobin though only in small amounts. acording to research that amount can be obtained through diet. If that is not the answer your looking for- give me some hints answers like that dont grow on trees. ------------------ MP IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514)	posted February 14, 2000 08:22 PM bump for Iean ------------------ MP IP: Logged
chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 120)	posted February 14, 2000 08:38 PM My point was that it was intended for a specific type of use. Now that doesn't mean it can't be used by other means. The best method is always to use as intended. Then go from there. I tried calling several vets (animal) to ask them about oral versus injecting and they flat refused to talk to me because the law says that they are not allowed to talk about a vet drug if it involves a human. Again, I was stating that the preferred method is always choice one, and then you go from there. I may have been harsh on some word choices and statements. But, I think the intended reponse has been met. We have a lot of input on this, including actual oral usage and does not seem that it has harmed anyone. So, it seems to me that it is up to the personal preference of the user. Chesty IP: Logged
Iean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted February 15, 2000 01:20 AM Ok why do humans not digest roughage (fiber) like herbivors (cows, etc.) do. Come on Macro I have confidence in you. Oh by the way human hemoglobin is comprised of 2 alpha subunits and 2 beta subunits. oh and do not forget that we also have myoglobin which is important because oxygen disassociates from it readily. IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514)	posted February 15, 2000 02:17 AM Iean- we are not efficient at digesting grasses because we a not ruminants like cows. The basis for their ability to digest is the high microorganism content of the rumen which cows can regurgitate (the food bolus) and then the sub-rumen and the other two parts of the cows digestive system have better access to nutrients. However your question is still moot because if you had blended the grasses and then ate them- you would be able to absorb quite well because such blending would have broken/damaged the cell walls of the grasses allowing your lower microbacterial stomach environment to absorb said nutrients. As an aside chorophyll is rather well abosorbed by humans from several plat sorces including blue-green algae. I thought that this might be the gist of your orginal question but it seemed to simple for a whole liter of test. ------------------ MP IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514)	posted February 15, 2000 03:17 AM bump again ------------------ MP IP: Logged
bignate73 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44)	posted February 15, 2000 04:00 AM hey macro, i think the chlorophyll thing was there to throw you off. the roughage is the key here. such a puzzle. ill bump this to see where this goes. IP: Logged
Primo57 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 194)	posted February 15, 2000 10:10 AM I can't believe this one is still alive; I'm a true believer in 17-ch^3 ASs! Macro is right on. IP: Logged
flexed1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 161)	posted February 15, 2000 12:31 PM i've never felt like such a dumb fuck..g bodybuilder in my life. HuuuuuuH? IP: Logged
Iean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted February 15, 2000 12:39 PM BigNATE is right the chlorophyll is there to throw you off the key is in the roughage. Ok last clue. The roughage is a carbohydrate that is hel together by something. We can not break these. IP: Logged
bignate73 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44)	posted February 15, 2000 02:41 PM its all about the cellulose..... cellulose a carbohydrate of high molecular weight that is the chief constituent of the CELL walls of plants. heh heh. we do not have cellulase the enzyme that processes it....sorry the suspense was killing me. IP: Logged
WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 147)	posted February 15, 2000 05:10 PM I can't believe I've missed this whole debate. Ah, well. BTW, cows eat grass, them four stomachs process grass and make meat. Lobo kills cow and eats meat. Therefore, Lobo as no problem with digesting grass.... Late Lobo IP: Logged
Iean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted February 16, 2000 12:51 AM No Bignate73 you are soooo close. It is not cellulase but it is an enzyme that breaks certain bonds that we are lacking. IP: Logged
macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 514)	posted February 16, 2000 01:04 AM is it lignan peroxidase? that my last guess since I got started out on the wrong foot with your, argumentatively, poor question phrasing- Those were perfectly good answers to your question as phrased. peace ------------------ MP IP: Logged
bignate73 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44)	posted February 16, 2000 03:44 AM DOH! ah well. i gave it the old boy scout try. it was fun anyways. but i hate suspense so lets hear it...lol IP: Logged
Leroy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92)	posted February 16, 2000 10:51 AM Hey Primo, drink it !!! no problem, you not gonna die... just be prepared, it taste's like shit... ------------------ "What can be imagined, can be done" (I hope so...) Take Care. Leroy IP: Logged
Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 152)	posted February 16, 2000 11:23 AM Has anyone else noticed that Mac is the fuckin' dude? IP: Logged
Iean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted February 16, 2000 04:27 PM Macro you are right the ? was phrased piss poor. I just pretended that I was a test maker for the MCAT (Medical College Admission Test). The ?'s are all like that. Oh the answer is beta-glycosidase amoung other names. This is one of the reasons that humans can only utilize the dextratory-isomer of glucose and not the levatory isomer of it. It is all about the enzymes! IP: Logged
Iean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted February 16, 2000 04:28 PM Macro you are right the ? was phrased piss poor. I just pretended that I was a test maker for the MCAT (Medical College Admission Test). The ?'s are all like that. Oh the answer is beta-glycosidase amoung other names. This is one of the reasons that humans can only utilize the dextratory-isomer of glucose and not the levatory isomer of it. It is all about the enzymes! IP: Logged
Iean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted February 16, 2000 04:30 PM Macro you are right the ? was phrased piss poor. I just pretended that I was a test maker for the MCAT (Medical College Admission Test). The ?'s are all like that. Oh the answer is beta-glycosidase amoung other names. This is one of the reasons that humans can only utilize the dextratory-isomer of glucose and not the levatory isomer of it. It is all about the enzymes! IP: Logged

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