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ahthong
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 07, 2000 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahthong     Edit/Delete Message
I was wondering if it really works. Body Opus advocates carbing up during the weekends and The Atkin's Diet does not. I know B.O. is tailored for bodybuilding, but still, the recommended daily intake of protein is far less than the conventional - 1 to 2 grams per pound of bodyweight - rule.
My question really, is, if there will be any lost of muscle mass on the ketogenic diet? Thanks anyone!

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mr bod
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 07, 2000 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mr bod   Click Here to Email mr bod     Edit/Delete Message
I HAVE DONE THE DIET--DOING IT NOW AND HAVNE'T NOTICED MUSCLE LOSS HOWEVER I DID NOTICE A DROP IN MORNING TEMP IN WEEK 5...I LOVRE HTE DIET BUT I LOVEREATTING BACON AND MEAT..DID LOW FAT FOR 10YRS SO IT IS AWELCOME CHANGE...YOU WILL HOLD MUSCLE..BUT I AM THINK OF CARBING UP LIKE DAN SAYS EVERY 2 WEEKS...IN STEAD OF ONE...I READ ALOT OF LYLE MCDONALDS NET STUFF..THAT HELPED ALOT...AND IT ALL STARTED FOR ME ON THE ATKINS PLAN..I REALIZED ON MY OWN THE THE ATKINS PLAN WAS FOR FAT PEOPLE..BUT IT APPEARED TO BE WORKING...I SEARCHED THE NET AND FOUND BODY OPUS ..IT IS A GREAT BOOK..SCAN BACK OVER THE POSTS FOR THE PAST 100DAYS HERE..I WAS ASKING TONS OF QUESTIONS A FEW WEEKS AGO...FROM MAKING SLOW PROGRESS TO WHY MY STIZ WOULDN'T TRUN PURPLE....ON THE DIET DISCUSSSION BOARD GEORGE HAS A NICE THREAD TALKING ABOUT SECRETS PROS DON'T WANT US KNOW--IT IS KETO DIET INFO..

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Dr.Atlas
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 07, 2000 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr.Atlas   Click Here to Email Dr.Atlas     Edit/Delete Message
Yah man, I've cyclic keto for as long as 2 months at a time, kinda a mix between bodyopus and lyle McD's diets. 75% fat, 25% protein, calories set at maintenance level using 9 cal per fat gram (instead of 7 cal burned as ketones). Atkin's diet is not as good as either of these. I tried to avoid too much saturated fat, and my 6 daily meals consisted of a shot glass of peanut oil and some whey or soy, maybe an ECA or multivitamin. No carbs until carb up. In 8 weeks I lost 19 pounds of fat while gaining 1.5 lbs of muscle according to underwater weighing, without juicing. So hell yeah it works. Isn't the most pleasant thing though. I found that I get slightly better results with a 7 day keto phase instead of a 5 day. Get huge (and lean). Peace

PS The protein is low to keep your body from using it to make glucose. Our host George Spellwin has some interesting ideas for incorporating other drugs into the diet. ------------------
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Primo57
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posted February 08, 2000 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo57     Edit/Delete Message
Also check out w8lifter's page.

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aslan
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posted February 08, 2000 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aslan   Click Here to Email aslan     Edit/Delete Message
how do you figure up total calories needed for this diet????????? thanx

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Wasted_Youth
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posted February 08, 2000 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wasted_Youth     Edit/Delete Message
I tried body opus for a month. It didn't work for me, but here's why. I ate more than I ever did on any other diet. I was so damn hungry all the time, I would stuff my face with any thing jars of olives, pork, greasy nasty steaks, fat still on em, anything. I was ravenous. I was just always hungry. My total calories went up big time. This diet is hard man. Be prepared!

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naprox
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posted February 08, 2000 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naprox   Click Here to Email naprox     Edit/Delete Message
I use it regularly to strip fat after a bulk cycle. I prefer the targeted ketogenic diet where you consume simple carbs after workouts to replentish glycogen and there is no week end carb up.

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