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Boric
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 04, 2000 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boric     Edit/Delete Message
What would be the best thing to increase power output without weight gaining?
Any info. Thanks.

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big_bad_buff
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posted February 04, 2000 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_bad_buff   Click Here to Email big_bad_buff     Edit/Delete Message

i know what you shouldn't do!

like 2 years ago i tride TOM PLATS gain 30 pounds on bench in 3 weeks..

holy shit i was dumb. your suposed to work chest ever day for 3 weeks, and i did, i gained 20 pounds on bench in 3 weeks. but after the 3 weeks for up i got sick as a dog, and couldnt workout for 2 weeks, and ended up losing 10 pounds of muscle.

damn that sucked

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studcj
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posted February 04, 2000 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message

Well, I can tell you that everybody is going to have a different opiniom on this one.

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"I can, because Im crazzy!"
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naprox
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posted February 04, 2000 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naprox   Click Here to Email naprox     Edit/Delete Message
If you mean what routines, try the power lifter style routines. Low volume low reps but big weights.

If you mean what AS, then try fina, though it is a little harsh.


If you mean right before a competition, then pop a couple halos -- they'll add an intensity and agression to your workouts, but they are quite liver unfriendly

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E2
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posted February 04, 2000 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
before a comp take cheque drops, they'll hook you up with that first place

E2

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted February 04, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
HALOTESTIN!

Matt

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Deepsquat
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posted February 04, 2000 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
I m with NAPROX low reps4-6 low sets 6-8 per body part,not per exercise twice a week= power without a lot of size

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Boric
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posted February 05, 2000 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boric     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the answers. In fact, I'm not a bodybuilder, I'm a cyclist. I need maximum possible power output on existing muscle mass. Putting on weight in cycling is out of the question. It's impossibble to increase power without increasing muscle mass, at least not without AS. So I know you bodybuilders know a lot about this stuff, so any info would be very very much apreciated. I heard GH is the best, but I cannot afford it. Deca, Primobolan etc. - that's all pump up stuff (as I heard). What do you guys suggest?

Thanks in advance.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted February 05, 2000 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Boric,

Hop on your bike and go get some HALOTESTIN.

Matt

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Boric
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posted February 05, 2000 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boric     Edit/Delete Message
Halotestin? Never heard aobut that.. what is it anyway?

B

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DianaBallBusta
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posted February 05, 2000 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DianaBallBusta   Click Here to Email DianaBallBusta     Edit/Delete Message
bigbadbuff - chest every day? thats alot man. i know this dude who trained chest every day and he ended up tearing all his chest muscles. pretty sad story.

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vdevil
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posted February 05, 2000 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message
How the hell do you train chest every day??? even on a.s???

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted February 05, 2000 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Boric,

If you search through some of the old psts, you will see that I posted one, called "Questions about HALO".

I got about 6 responses from various people on this board, I think you will find it very informative.

The thrust of it is that HALO will increase stregth considerably with very little if any increase in weight. Tends to make one's muscle harder - some bodybuilders use it to prepare for contests in order to preserve strength while dieting down. It also increases aggression, but for a competitive athlete is that really a bad thing?!

Anyway, look for an old post called "questions about HALO" - it is fairly comprehensive.

Matt

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Boric
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posted February 05, 2000 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boric     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Matt, I will.

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christian918
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posted February 05, 2000 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for christian918     Edit/Delete Message
If you go with cheque drops, you may try to kill your competetors, or at least bite off a piece of ear.

stay big,

Christian

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macrophage69alpha
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posted February 05, 2000 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
use good old test with all the training your doing putting mass will not be a problem- far as I know the favorite accessory drug for cyclists is EPO. and EPO searches were the reason that over half the teams dropped out of the tour de france last year.

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Boric
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posted February 05, 2000 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boric     Edit/Delete Message
Macro,

yes, the EPO rules, but the antidoping regulations limit the hematocrite level to 50 - a highly trained endurance athlete may have 46 or 47 without EPO, so increasing hematocrite to 49 wouldn't be effective. And even 49 may easely raise to 51 over the night if you dehydrate a little.
Well.. about testo.. what kind of testo AS do you recomend? How much, when?

Thanks

B

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Deepsquat
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posted February 05, 2000 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
the way he trained chest everyday is , he limited the number of sets to i believe 3 and the reps veried every day 4-6 6-8 10-12 13-15 depending on what part of the cycle you are at.the basics behind this routine are in Leo Costas book Serious Growth It is the most informative and radical routine I have read in 20 years of lifting, also the most effective.A phone # of theres at least from a few years ago was 209-732-5537 2945 so.Mooney Blvd,Vasalina CA 93277

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