posted February 03, 2000 09:15 PM            

I think TEST should be the foundation of any cycle whether "newbie" or "veteran". but without the proper tools and knowledge- well, they should not be taking gear anyways.

TEST-
it helped you get to where you are
it will help take you where you want to go

BTW- have at it this (TEST) seems to be a big point of contention.

posted February 03, 2000 10:42 PM            

A little bit of propionate in my life.
A little bit of phenylpropionate by my side.
A little bit of isocaproate is all I need.
A little bit of decanoate is all I see.

How's my singing?

300

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posted February 03, 2000 10:49 PM            

I mean having at least 500mg per week released in to you blood stream. if you are 500mg of sust a week you wont hit this 500mg till week 4 or 5. I think that mixing it up is best with the different test esters. I dont like suspension as much because of the frequency of injections at least 2 times per day, but you can use smaller pins with it.

CLOMID is always a must, if you go over 1.0gram a week- I would add some arimidex or cytadren. Nizoral is a good idea. proscar and saw palmetto if worrried about prostate/hair.

I find that some people respond to smaller doses, but if you are not one of those people keep increasing until you do- just keep possible side effects in check. Most people that I know experience little or no side effects at over a gram a week- some people I know get bad side effects at well below that- though in all those cases they were prone and did not take accessory drugs.

though if prone to hair loss take care at these higher dosages-

if you are prone to gyno use clomid and arimidex or cytadren- it might be expensive but it is well worth the money when bringing the dosages to this level.

A little known fact-- all anabolics are over estimated in the amount of active chemical because a part of the weight is the ester itself- only with suspension and orals is the active amount of drug close to amount listed because they have no ester- just something to think about.

PEACE

posted February 04, 2000 01:36 AM            

Late

Lobo

posted February 05, 2000 12:53 AM            

DONT WORRY I WILL PUT UP THE "PRIMO IS IT FOR EVERYONE?" NEXT WEEK

OR MAYBE "PRIMO IS IT ANABOLIC?"
HEHEHE
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posted February 05, 2000 12:59 AM            

I will say one more thing, though.
You must be working for an underground testosterone lobbying group, because you never stop pushing that stuff!!!

Peace,
Jon

posted February 05, 2000 01:10 AM            

Are you insinuating that Primo is not the "Breakfast of Champions?"
Since you asked, I do have a box of 10cc syringes hanging around here somewhere. Since I am assuming you are a house, then a 10cc glute injection per day should not be a problem. Keep us updated on your results!

BWAAAAAAAAA!!!

Jon

posted February 05, 2000 01:56 AM            

I'm insulted that you are keeping silent. Maybe you are finally admitting that I am right about the Primo. I knew I would get through to you one day.

"Test is Dead!!" J/K, I wouldn't do a cycle without it, anymore.

Jon

posted February 05, 2000 02:21 AM            

PEACE

btw- it is not that i think that primo is bad or worthless.
it is just that it is weak, heavily counterfitted, comes in low mg strengths, can be harder on hair than test, and usually rather expensive. this is not to say that primo is not of value to some people and actually part of many good stacks, just that I dont particularly like it for the reasons stated above. another reason that I am not a big believer in primo is all the hype surrounding fat loss- as far as I know anavar is the only anabolic show special properties in reducing fat levels. also primo is used as a taper drug which to me is a waste since I dont believe in tapering. I mean say you were on 500mgs of test a week and you went on 200mg winnie and 600mgs primo for the last couple of weeks to keep your estrogen levels down when you come off I am all for that, it makes a lot of sense but it is also very expensive- to most people which is why such an end to a cycle is not commonly used.
wow- that was a lot but as you probably have guessed once I get going I have a tendency to keep going.
peace

posted February 05, 2000 02:42 PM            

I see it, but I am just searching the net to find out who BRUCE JENNER is. Ha! I will turn you to the "Primo Side" sooner or later.

Jon