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GORGEOUS1
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 36)
posted February 03, 2000 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GORGEOUS1   Click Here to Email GORGEOUS1     Edit/Delete Message
I learned recently that a friend of mine had suffered a stroke in the gym when he was working out. From what i hear(i haven't spoken to him in over 2 months, we had a falling out with, yea you guessed it and argument on juice, can't get into the details of that) N e ways, i have been told that he is now in a mental institution. This message mainly goes to the newbies not just in drugs, but who are just starting out lifting as well. Don't get to greedy and lose your common sense. I know my friend had been on a straight cycle for basically over a year, i doubt he took any time off, except for maybe twice if that. At one point he was stacking, cyp. enathate, sustanon, anadrol, deca, d-bol. He was out of control. Guys be careful and watch out for the people around you, because i never said anything to him. Now i wonder if i made a big mistake. Will post more later. But as far as the new people who are just starting out. Please use some sense and don't let it consume your life. If you are going to juice, please use your head.

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E2
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Sorry to hear about your bud, listen up newbies take your time and learn everything you can

E2

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chesty
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posted February 03, 2000 12:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Bump that, and remember use common sense!

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big_bad_buff
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_bad_buff   Click Here to Email big_bad_buff     Edit/Delete Message

BUMP

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Michael Gigante
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Gigante   Click Here to Email Michael Gigante     Edit/Delete Message
Bump

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Adonis
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adonis   Click Here to Email Adonis     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP
BUMP

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jak267
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jak267   Click Here to Email jak267     Edit/Delete Message
I heard about a guy that kepted having strokes because he kept using Testosterone Enanthate. I never could stand to stay on Enanthate because my arms and legs kepted going to sleep. I have the feeling that Testosterone Enanthate increases Red Blood Cell count higher than others. And for me, my RBC has always been especially high anyway. P.S. to the newbies, don't mess around with high blood pressure! This will cause a stroke also.

[This message has been edited by jak267 (edited February 03, 2000).]

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GORGEOUS1
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GORGEOUS1   Click Here to Email GORGEOUS1     Edit/Delete Message
A GOOD PIECE OF ADVICE I GOT WHEN I FIRST STARTED USING GEAR IS "YOU HAVE TO CONTROL IT, NOT LET IT CONTROL YOU"

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macrophage69alpha
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
Know what you are going to be doing to yourself before you so it. Blood pressure is not something to be taken lightly. Most guys on cycle pound high sodium foods, which because of the high retention of minerals associated with anabolics increases blood pressure.

If you have any potential blood pressure problems you should take it into account when picking gear, amount of gear, possible accessory drugs- and VERY IMPORTANT IS EATING RIGHT-KEEPING SODIUM INTAKE AT NORMAL LEVELS OR EVEN REDUCED ONES.

health
growth
and
long life

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tray renfro
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posted February 03, 2000 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tray renfro   Click Here to Email tray renfro     Edit/Delete Message
those are some words to live by. just use common sence and be smart.

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tray renfro?!?!
gotta cumm up

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Mr. T
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
One thing to take in to acount is psychological addiction. As you guys know, it feels great to have a product pumpin through the veins. This can cause those with addictive personalties (Doing things in excess) to have a problem. Sometimes, with a product, it is easy to be like a kid in a candy store. Use a product as a supplement, not as way of life.

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studcj
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
Im a newbie, and I just thought I'd let
you guys know that I heard you loud and
clear. Im doing a shitload of homework right now. Thanks for all the advice. Sorry to hear
about your friend bro, thats tough. You can just hope that something like that will teach us newbies.

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"I can, because Im crazzy!"
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xrciseink
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xrciseink     Edit/Delete Message
USE IT OR ABUSE IT, its up to you.

SAY KNOW TO DRUGS!

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The Ranger
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posted February 03, 2000 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to hear about your Bud!!
Thanks for sharing the story.....BUMP!!!

Ranger

" Sua Sponte "

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GORGEOUS1
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 15, 2000 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GORGEOUS1   Click Here to Email GORGEOUS1     Edit/Delete Message
Just thought this deserved to be bumped back up for the newbies to read.

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wretched
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 15, 2000 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wretched   Click Here to Email wretched     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 62775426
BUMP..BUMP

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big pump
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posted February 16, 2000 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big pump   Click Here to Email big pump     Edit/Delete Message
big BUMP

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF MODERATION GUYS.

P.S SORRY TO HERE ABOUT YOUR FRIEND.

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king89123
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posted February 16, 2000 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king89123   Click Here to Email king89123     Edit/Delete Message
GOOD LOOKING OUT.I'LL BUMB THAT ALL DAY.STAY UP!

"KING" STAY BIGG!!

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king89123
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posted February 16, 2000 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for king89123   Click Here to Email king89123     Edit/Delete Message
GOOD LOOKING OUT.I'LL BUMP THAT ALL DAY.STAY UP!

"KING" STAY BIGG!!

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ASSFACE
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 16, 2000 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ASSFACE   Click Here to Email ASSFACE     Edit/Delete Message
'Face throws his condolences to you. I think it just goes to show, this is really about being big, being strong, and being HELATHY!!!!! I think most board members here will agree that any TWO of those compounds your friend used stacked together would yield phenomenal results.
You can not be big, strong, and healthy if you are dead.

At least your buddy has moved on to a better place where there is never a line at the bench press, and Momo will always throw you a spot.

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Rock_Man
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posted February 16, 2000 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rock_Man   Click Here to Email Rock_Man     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8696614
Gorgeous1,
sorry to hear that. This is definately where the "Muscle Dysmorphia Syndrom" can really hit home. This is a perfect example... Gotta be the biggest, the more I take the more I grow, I can risk a bit more and so on, and so on. It is a real problem and needs to be recognized by us in able to forwarn those that we see heading down that road. You can't blame yourself for not saying something to him, but by sharing your story with us, we are all aware and know that we can address the issue with caution to those around us. Hope all goes well bro and keep us informed.

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Tim_Couch
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 16, 2000 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim_Couch     Edit/Delete Message
It's funny, we've got all these guys talking about using moderation, but in some cases, these are the same guys that say things like, "250 mg of Sust. a week is not even close to enough, you've got to pound the receptors, you need at least 750 a week." Don't bother telling people to use moderation if this isn't the advice you give. This is to no one specific.

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MiniMic
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 16, 2000 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiniMic   Click Here to Email MiniMic     Edit/Delete Message
Thinks for the insight. I'm somewhat of a newbie but know when to say when (sorry for the cliche). I go to school with a kid that I was best friends with all through high school. He did a couple cycles last summer, small but he is not a real tall kid. He started a cycle of dureteston last december and when we came back from winter vacation he had moved on to anadrol and liquid d-ball. He ran out of those so now he is doing sustenon. He will do whatever is available and he doesn't want to stop untill at least the summer or untill he reaches 250. He is 5'10" and 235lbs right now. I don't see him stopping for a while. Seems a little dumb to me but what can be done. For a brief second I considered dragging my current 8-week sustenon cycle till the summer but decided to finish it up in march and take a few months off before starting a d-ball/eq cycle. Off course when the time comes I'll let you guys help me critique it. Sorry about your friend. We can all learn from it.

"That which does not kill you can only make you STRONGER!!"

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MiniMic
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 16, 2000 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiniMic   Click Here to Email MiniMic     Edit/Delete Message
Thinks for the insight. I'm somewhat of a newbie but know when to say when (sorry for the cliche). I go to school with a kid that I was best friends with all through high school. He did a couple cycles last summer, small but he is not a real tall kid. He started a cycle of dureteston last december and when we came back from winter vacation he had moved on to anadrol and liquid d-ball. He ran out of those so now he is doing sustenon. He will do whatever is available and he doesn't want to stop untill at least the summer or untill he reaches 250. He is 5'10" and 235lbs right now. I don't see him stopping for a while. Seems a little dumb to me but what can be done. For a brief second I considered dragging my current 8-week sustenon cycle till the summer but decided to finish it up in march and take a few months off before starting a d-ball/eq cycle. Off course when the time comes I'll let you guys help me critique it. Sorry about your friend. We can all learn from it.

"That which does not kill you can only make you STRONGER!!"

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