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phiend
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 116)
posted February 03, 2000 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phiend     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63040172
Aside from some simple facts about AS, the only thing that I have really learned since I have been on this board is that "almost everything regarding roids is subjective." Everybody thinks they know what is right, but everybody thinks in a different way. Some say test, some say no. Some say hargainer, others say lazy. I have learned in the last few days that when you say something, say it as an opinion not as a fact, because a majority of the time it is opinion with the exception of a few objectivities. Opinions are like assholes; everybody has them, and they all stink
Things work differently for different people. Just wanted to say something about this. I am sure you guys will have something to say, especially macrophage
Later.

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In the great words of Jim Morrison: "The TEST is the best," or was it "the WEST is the best"? Oh, whatever.

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macrophage69alpha
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 267)
posted February 03, 2000 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
you are correct that there are many different opinions on this board regarding, AS, nutrition and training. you seem to be able to surmise why- everybody is different and what works for someone may not work for you and vice versa. The real problem with your understanding of this board is that you COMPARTMENTALIZE AND MISCONSTRUE statements of the others that post. lazy is a very subjective word and can refer to all aspects mentioned above. I find it lazy that people want somebody to tell them what to do and are not willing to take the time to put together theories and ideas from what they learned and personal experience. yes it is harder for some people to gain muscle mass and it is harder for others to lose fat. this does not mean that they cannot do it only that it may be harder for them. if you want something and then give up because it is harder for you than someone else-YOU ARE LAZY.
LETS JUST COMPARE THIS TO THE MATERIAL WORLD:
BILL GATES CAN EASILY BUY TEN HOUSES, IT IS HARD FOR MOST PEOPLE TO BUY ONE. DOES THIS MEAN THAT MOST PEOPLE DONT TRY TO AND SUCCEED IN BUYING HOUSES?- I MEAN THOSE THAT REALLY WANT TO AND PUT A WHOLE HEARTED EFFORT INTO IT- OF COURSE NOT, AND THE HOUSES THAT THEY BUY ARE NOT AS BIG AND NOT AS NICE AS BILLS BUT THEY ARE STILL HOUSES WHICH IS BETTER -to them- THAN NOT HAVING ONE. JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS BETTER GENETICS THAN YOU AND WILL GET BIGGER EASIER DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CANNOT REACH YOUR GOAL WITH HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION- YEAH I KNOW LIFES UNFAIR. SO WHAT!! LEARN TO DO THE BEST WITH WHAT YOU HAVE GOT.
UNFORTUNATELY MOST PEOPLE JUST ARE NOT DEDICATED ENOUGH TO REALIZE THEIR POTENTIAL.

Knowledge is Power
but
Dedication is Key

PEACE

btw- it would be appreciated if you actually read the post before posting a reply.
It seems to me that we agree more than you think and that some of the differences in our posts are semantics.

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MP

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bignate73
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 5)
posted February 03, 2000 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message
dang....um.....excuse me i have an appointment with my weak bodypart at the gym!!!=)
very inspiring
thanks

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juice_junkie
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 24)
posted February 03, 2000 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juice_junkie   Click Here to Email juice_junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Well said MP... I agree. I think everybody has something to bring to the table. Whether it be a genetically gifted body part or the discipline to eat properly while leaning, or the determination to force food down your throat to point of vomitting while bulking. Everybody has something to offer that is a little easier for them than the next guy. For me it's quads and shoulders. I have to fight for my other body parts. But at 5'8" 225 my quads measure 29" and that's without flexing they just grow like hell even when I shit they grow. My shoulders also seem to grow for no reason I haven't worked them in 4 weeks. All my other exercises just seem to hit them as well. But my down fall is leaning which in my case is good. I am naturally lean so I stay around 7-8% even when bulking. But when it comes time for contest prep dieting fucking sucks. You just kinda got to take the good with the bad. If have haven't found anything that maybe comes easier for you then another person then you are quiting to soon. Oh and by the way everything on this page is opinion and suggestions. If it doesn't fit your goals just disregard it but don't bitch.

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xrciseink
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 46)
posted February 03, 2000 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xrciseink     Edit/Delete Message
well put.

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WarLobo
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 83)
posted February 03, 2000 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
My asshole is a fact. Therefore, my opionions, which are based on my asshole are also fact :p

Late

Lobo

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The1stnosant
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The1stnosant   Click Here to Email The1stnosant     Edit/Delete Message
Damn Macro!... great post....well said!

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Fe3
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 62)
posted February 03, 2000 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fe3   Click Here to Email Fe3     Edit/Delete Message
This whole site is about guys with the same interests pulling together to form a unity especially against fake gear. The "opinions" are just that opinions. THey are here to help everyone from the rookie with his first cycle to the expert who maybe has exhausted his routine and looking for new advise. BTW- what is your point to this? You don't have to listen to us. We didn't invite you anyway.
But there is a cool web site suited for you. WWW.rotten.COM
check it out.

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Leroy
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 80)
posted February 03, 2000 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leroy   Click Here to Email Leroy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 62152588
Way to go MP...

The things are simple to me: I don't nothing from a subject, put a post. If i got only one reply (opinion) thats bad, it's all i have, need to bump and do more research. 2 replies (opinions) i can be confused, bump and more research. 3 or more replies (opinions from the bros who is trying to help !!!) now i start getting some point !!!

Opinions are very important !!! please give yours to me bros !!! If you gonna stop people from posting their opinions, i want to get off of this site, cause i'm here to listen (or read) your opinions... It may not work for me, but this i will have to discover by my own...

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"What can be imagined, can be done" (I hope so...)

Take Care.
Leroy

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Adonis
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adonis   Click Here to Email Adonis     Edit/Delete Message
All of my advice and or opinoins are based on actuall experiments performed on myself, therefore, since we are not all alike, you must take what we advice at face value.

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big daddy sweets
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 8)
posted February 03, 2000 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big daddy sweets     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the expert advice buddy, your brilliant! Are you a pro, didn't I see you at the Arnold classic?

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HARDBALL2
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 88)
posted February 03, 2000 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HARDBALL2   Click Here to Email HARDBALL2     Edit/Delete Message
well said guys...everybody's different...different lifestyle, different personal goals(GETTING DIESEL), different ways of training, dieting, injecting, being natural, which gear they use...life is about differences. you are all different from me...i'm not that experienced when it comes to actual dieting down from a show, never competed, but i bet i'm one of the best when it comes to how to bulk up...food! that's what makes us all unique and VERY important to each other on the board. For all of us that have different opinions on TEST and PRIMO, hey, if one works better for someone than the other, is that the way to go??? Everybody is different...what works for MACRO may not work for RANGER or BIZ...It's a coin flip at some point during your training, which path to follow...the left path to gets you to your goal of being DIESEL, or the right path that leads you to being another AVERAGE guy...what you decide is up to you! I have to take the left path now and be out...but before i go, GET HUGE AND DROP BOMBS is my goal in life...I WANT TO GET HUGE AND HIT HOMERUNS IN THE BIGS ONE DAY!!! That's what I want to do!! but remember everyone is different, what will work for some, may not work for others...just keep your ears open and maybe everyone can learn from each other!~!!

GET HUGE AND DROP BOMBS!!

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BIZ
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posted February 03, 2000 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIZ     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 60842902
SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS AGREED ON THIS PREETY WELL.......

BIZ!

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mitch251
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mitch251     Edit/Delete Message
I wish I had that much time to type all that shit.Then i wouldn't have to read the boards i would know it all .ha
HAVE A GOOD DAY

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phiend
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phiend     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 63040172
You are right BIZ. It seems that we agreed on this topic; however, I don't think that the others realize that I am not trying to lash out at people with this comment. What do ou mean "no one invited you," FE2? Invitation has nothing to do with it. Your comment had absolutely no worth. I was just trying to tell people that were maybe new to the board or that still didn't realize it that what people say here is not the only way to do things. And I am not miscontruing anything. You people also have to be reasonable; if someone does not grow off 4000 calories a day, then I would definitley consider them a hardgainer. Not everyone can afford the money nor the time to consume 5500 calories. I don't know how this thread got back onto the topic of hardgainers since we already proved that everyone thinks they know the answer, but I admit that it's mostly my fault. BTW macrophage, I am not trying to challenge you, but your purposeful rhetoric does not make your point any stronger. I too can use big words: verisimiltude, nemaultramicroscopicsilicavolcanacaneosis, etc. That is a real word by the way. Thank you, drive through.

Peace. Even though I am sure people will still flame my response.

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naprox
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 70)
posted February 03, 2000 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naprox   Click Here to Email naprox     Edit/Delete Message
Did I mention that I hate Bill Gates? Man with his paycheck I could buy everyone here all the free cycles they need.

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quenepo
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 94)
posted February 03, 2000 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quenepo   Click Here to Email quenepo     Edit/Delete Message
The boards is good because everyone think diferents,and you learn a lot.Peace


quenepo

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brasco1
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted February 03, 2000 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brasco1   Click Here to Email brasco1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 43500091
If you know guy some supplier in canada(the best around Toronto ) let me know.
my emails addy [email protected]
auto36779@hushmail

looking just for gear, nothing special

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