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 got a question for the vets, moderators and even mr. spellwin ...im really concerned
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LBP Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 60) |
posted January 21, 2000 08:36 PM
  
hey ive got a nephew who tells me he wants to juice...he's 17...im not going to lie to him so...i told him what to take IF NOTHING I SAID COULD TALK HIM OUT OF IT...cause at least he'll take the safest stuff...deca/primo that's it...anyway...im not really sure but he asked if it'll stunt his growth...i told him id find out....does it?? also don't think im an asshole im not supplying him and i tried to talk him out of it...at first he said he was going to hit d-bol and sust. and didn't even know to hit post drugs...so...at least i got him partially on the right track...but will juicing too young really fuck him up and can you please give me some examples even?? thanks i appreciate it IP: Logged |
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BIZ Moderator (Total posts: 247) |
posted January 21, 2000 08:44 PM
THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION A CALL HAS TO MADE IN THE INTREST OF THE HEALTH OF A YOUNG MAN! I WOULD WORK REALLY HARD ON EXPLAINING TO HIM THE SERIOUS DAMAGE THAT CAN BE CAUSED BY USEING AT A YOUNG AGE. POSSIBILITIES GROWTH CAN COME TO A HAULT, HEIGTH.ECT...FUSED BONES AND HEALTH CONDITIONS OF THAT NATURE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THINK OF IT THIS WAY IF YOUR SON WENT TO YOUR BROTHER AND SAID I WANT TO USE GEAR WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT HIM TO SAY??? NO FLAMMING HERE BRO JUST CONCERN!!! THIS IS A VERY TOUGH DESCION THAT HAS TO MADE BY YOU AND I AM SORRY THAT YOU ARE IN THIS POSITION. HELL IF HE DECIDES TO DO IT ALL YOU CAN DO IS DIRECT HIM TO THE REAL PAPER WORK PHYSICIAN DESK REFERNCE, MEDICAL JOURNALS.ECT..THAT MIGHT SCARE HIM! MAN I AM SURE SOME ONE ELSE CAN GIVE YOU A LOT MORE DETAIL ON THIS ISSUE I AM SPEAKING FROM CONCERNED STANDPOINT...... RESPECTFULLY, IP: Logged |
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LBP Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 60) |
posted January 21, 2000 10:06 PM
thanks biz...i don't want to jeopardize his health either...thanks for the input though IP: Logged |
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madbomber31 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted January 21, 2000 11:51 PM
well, the thing is, the kid is determined that juice is the way to go... so your stuck either 1. telling his parents to watch out for this (bad mean dickhead uncle) 2. getting him some supplements from the local stores (GNC etc..) that work and work well enough to make him believe this is the way to go 3. letting him find shit on his own (and we all know test is the easiest to find) 4. pointing him towards the more anabolic and less androgenic shit hopefully saving some future problems. sucks to be you my man... i am guessing the dickhead uncle way is out of the question, and i would imagine letting him find his own shit is too... so talk and talk hard about creatine, glutamine, protein, etc... there are good supplements out there that can and do help... z-mass, cytopro, tribulus, etc.. but if he goes the way of the juice, get him on a multivit, a megamineral, and some stuff to protect his liver and organs... and honestly, take his ass to the docs alot too to get blood work. wow, as i write this i think, how in good conscious could you show the kid how to inject and all that... damn, you do that, and his parents find out, they hate you... you dont do it and he gets an infection, they hate you and he does too... uh, good luck. IP: Logged |
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100acrewoods Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted January 22, 2000 12:18 AM
My two cents... Ask him why he is wanting to juice? Does he play football or is in sports? What is his reason? I can't think of anything that would justify him taking roids, but there are plenty of reasons he shouldn't. If he is in sports, then chances are, if he is any good, he will blow his chances of being selected to a DIV 1 school (drug testing). Also, explain to him that they work so well, that in addition to having big muscles, since his testosterone is already at it's maximum and he is pumping more into his system, then the only thing left to grow is his acne and breasts. Remind him that there is a chance that due to the exogeneous testosterone in his system, his own production may shut down. Not a very good thing if he is on a date with one of the hottest girls in school and can't live up to expectations. Remind him what would happen if that ever got around. And like was stated before, ask him if he likes his height now. But... if he is genetically gifted and has an awesome physique and can compete nationally, then maybe he should. If not, then he should wait (notice I didn't say not to) a few years. Just my opinion. IP: Logged |
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BIZ Moderator (Total posts: 247) |
posted January 22, 2000 12:45 AM
ONE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE LET HIM KNOW THAT HE IS PEAKED AT HIS NATURAL LEVELS AT THIS POINT AND WOULD DO WORSE FOR HIM THAN ANYTHING!! GOD LUCK BRO! BIZ! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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LBP Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 60) |
posted January 22, 2000 10:51 AM
well he wrestles and wants to do bodybuilding and i told him i won't show him how to inject he should just go to a book store and read nursing books to find out...he also has tried all that gnc stuff... i hope he does have problems getting it up w/ the women though cause im sick of him bragging to me about how he gets more pussy then his uncle...lol...but he's a good kid and honestly except for his calves he's got good genetics and is a hard worker...i think i'll just have him stay away from tests and go w/ deca and eq and winny and primo...that's all the drugs he should be using i think...i'll let you know how his first cycle goes...i also told him to have liver enzyme tests and blood work before and after cycle but he says it costs too much... im about to pay for it but if his parents find out then...i'll be fucked... anywayz...i also told him to go to my dermatologist to get rid of any acne...and i told him to get some eca stuff and water pills in case he starts bloating...i also told him not to tell his parents about my involvement...so...i'll let everyone know how it goes...thanks for all your input...later IP: Logged |
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BIZ Moderator (Total posts: 247) |
posted January 23, 2000 09:55 AM
WCP WE ARE HERE TO SPEAK WITH ONE ANOTHER ON ISSUES NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE! ONE THING I LEARNED IS YOU NEVER DISREPECT A MAN UNLESS DISRESPECTED.. HAS HE DISRESPECTED YOU??? HE POSTED A QUESTION AND REQUESTED HELP....I SURE DID NOT SEE HIM CURSING AT ANYONE OR CALLING ANYONE OUT OF THERE NAME. I AM NOT CALLING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW BRO, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY DO NOT POST IT..I CAN SEE YOUR ANGER BUT TAKE THE ANGER OUT IN USEFUL INFO BRO......ALL WE CAN DO IS SUGGEST IF HE DECIDES TO HELP HIS NEPHEW THAT IS HIS CHOICE ALL WE CAN DO IS BE HERE TO HELP IN ANY WAY!! I EDITED YOUR CURSING IN YOUR POST..THE REST OF THE INFO WAS VERY USEFUL......PLEASE LET US SHOW SOME RESPECT TO OUR BROS!!!
BIZ! ------------------
[This message has been edited by BIZ (edited January 23, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 145) |
posted January 23, 2000 11:05 AM
Hey Bro, I read your post...it almost made me cry! Anyone want to laugh...I don't think so!! I saw myself in your nephew, many years ago...I'm almost 40 now! Back in the late 70's and early 80's no one knew alot about juice....I was 16 and no one could talk me out of it. I saw all my dreams in the upcoming cycles. More pussy, heavier bench press, hard body building look, respect from other lifters, etc. Does this sound familiar??? Boards like this give us all the oppurtunity to share information and keep each other out of trouble. Anyway...everyone in my family is 6'5 or better...I'm 6'3, not bad but what if? I've blown both shoulders out(operation called total magnsun repair sp.? on both) 2 back operations(microdiscap. on L5 & L4) There's not too many days that don't go by that my joints don't hurt...yes I lived with the big boys for a while. I didn't have a board to ask questions to...I knew more than everyone else anyway!!! Sound familiar? I can't give you to much advice...maybe let him read this...let him use a 14 guage pin...I did because no one told me you could run that oily shit under hot water! As for the pussy....WELL it looked good on my arm when I was out with the other BRO's...but that was about it. I have 3 healthy children THANK GOD!!!! I sweated every birth because I didn't know...what if?? I don't envy you...but I agree, if he's going to juice...you guide him. Finding out on your own only leads to short term fame and long term misery!!! I'm smarter now, yes I juice...but it's quality...not quanity. Man! that was a load off!! Good Luck my man! Keep the board posted of the outcome. The Ranger IP: Logged |
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BIZ Moderator (Total posts: 247) |
posted January 23, 2000 07:47 PM
THANX WCP I APPRECIATTE YOUR UNDERSTANDING.... BIZ! IP: Logged |
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Rock_Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 101) |
posted February 10, 2000 12:47 PM
I'm interested in fining out how this has turned out so far. Any latest word? This is one real emotional post and thought it deserved a bump for an update. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 114) |
posted February 10, 2000 01:50 PM
Right on, Rock. Where you able to talk him out of it, LBP? We never got a follow up. IP: Logged |
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TxCollegeguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72) |
posted February 11, 2000 04:23 PM
I'd like to know what happens...Though I'm only 2 almost 3 years older then this guys nephew, I've been fully matured for a couple of years, at least it's what the doctors told me... Has your nephew done any research at all? I've been researching for a full year now and I still don't think I know all that I need to before I start... Preach to him Education...If anything else he needs to learn whats in store when he starts up IP: Logged |
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