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mitch251 Amature Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4)	posted January 21, 2000 06:57 PM If I use 1- sus 250 per wk and 5 d-bol per day 4- 10wks will have to use nolvadex and clomin at end of cycle thanx BB IP: Logged
Big Brother Val Amature Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13)	posted January 21, 2000 07:18 PM Just use the Nolvadex if you start feeling tenderness in the nips, which is a good sign of gyno, or if they swell of course. The Clomid is a good idea after any test cycle, to help your levels come back up, so you don't crash too hard after a cycle. IP: Logged
BIZ Moderator (Total posts: 89)	posted January 21, 2000 07:25 PM those arelow doses of sus is this your first cycle?? I would bring it up to 500/750 mlgs per week for good gaines! biz! IP: Logged
Jackal K2 Amature Bodybuilder (Total posts: 8)	posted January 21, 2000 07:43 PM I would not use 30mg a day of d-bol for 10 wks. But thats just me! and up your sustanon. and use clomid at end cycle. later bro. IP: Logged
mitch251 Amature Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4)	posted January 21, 2000 10:13 PM Yes this is my 1st cycle and how much d-bol would U use what would U suggest BB IP: Logged
LBP Amature Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27)	posted January 21, 2000 10:20 PM for first cyc i honestly wouldn't use d-bol at most use sust...id use sust/deca/primo for solid gains that last use clomid eod starting on wk 3 and on wks 9 and 10 1 tab/day proviron if you want at 1t/day for wks 9 and 10...nolvadex is taken if you feel itchy,or tender, or sensitive nips..at 1 eod...i only have 10tabs of it handy during one of these cyc's...don't usually really use em' plus they decrease muscle gains... wk primo sust deca 1 150 2 200 250 200 3 200 500 300 4 200 500 400 5 200 500 400 6 200 500 400 7 200 250 300 8 150 250 200 there you go...numbers are in mg have a blast..later IP: Logged
BIZ Moderator (Total posts: 89)	posted January 22, 2000 10:51 AM CHECK YOUR IMPUT 2 POST FOR A COPY OF A CYCLE THAT I AM CURRENTLY ON! THIS IS A THEORY THAT I AGREE WITH 100% MANY MAY DISAGREE BUT YOU ASKED FOR MY SUGGESTION. I WAS TAUGHT THIS AND FOLLOW THIS TILL THIS DAY WITH VERY GOOD GAINES... THEORY: EVERY KIND OF STEROID AFFECTS A DIFFERENT RECEPTOR. SO STARTING WITH THE MAX DOSE IS VERY EFFECTIVE FOR SATURATING THEM WHEN THEY ARE FRESH. THEN LOWER THE DOSAGE AS YOU GO ON WITH THE CYCLE. IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME THAN TO START LOW, THEN BUILD UP, AND THEN GO LOW AGAIN. BECAUSE YOUR RECEPTORS ADAPT TO THE GEAR. WHEN YOU START WITH THE MAX DOSE AND WORK DOWN FORM THERE YOU ARE REALLY TAPERING OFF OF THE DRUG AND CRASHES CAN BE MINIMIZED THIS WAY. DRUGS LIKE TEST,DBOL,ANADROL ARE HIGHLY ANDROGENIC AND LOW ANABOLIC. SO IT MAKES SENSE TO "SOLIDIFY" THESE WITH THE ANABOLICS(DECA, EQ , PRIMO,). LETS SAY YOU DO A CYCLE OF DECA. YOU ARE ABLE TO KEEP MOST FOR YOUR GAINS BECAUSE OF THE LOW WATER RETENTION. NOW IF YOU DID A CYCLE OF A50 YOU WOULD LOSE MOST OF YOU GAINS BECAUSE OF THE HIGH AMOUNT OF WATER RETENTION. SO BY USING THE HIGH ANDROGENS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE CYCLE AND THEN FINISHING WITH THE ANABOLICS YOU HIT FRESH RECEPTORS BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN DRUGS=NEW GROWTH! SO REALISTICALLY YOU WONT LOSE ANY MUSCLE BUT YOU WILL LOSE SOME WATER. RESPECTFULLY, BIZ! [This message has been edited by BIZ (edited January 22, 2000).] IP: Logged

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