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bert7753

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From:Corpus Christi, TX, U.S.
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posted February 26, 2001 10:09 AM

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I am using aratest, inj. dianabol, and clen. On my fifth week of a ten week cycle next week I plan on dorpping the d-bol in consideration for my liver and use deca-durobolin. I got nolvadex because even though I haven't had any gyno problems with gyno it is better to be safe than sorry. Now how do I use it? I am at about a gram a week of aratest, 250-300 mg/wk of dianabol, 100 mcg/day of clenbuterol.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 26, 2001 10:14 AM

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Nolvadex will do very little for you if you start using getting gyno from the deca. If once you have stopped the dbol and have had no problems with gyno up to that point it is unlikely that the onset of gyno will come about. It possibly can from the deca but that has littel to do with estrogen levels.

If you can I would get hold of eq instead, you would be certain on one thing.

Peace


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bert7753

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posted February 26, 2001 02:26 PM

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thanx iron game I probably would get eq instead but I already made a big investment on all of the deca durobolin. Would there still be a chance of gyno with only 400 mg per week of deca for 5 to 6 wks? If the risk is too great I will try the eq but if it is manageable I would rather try out the deca since I've already aquired it and can begin tapering it up today while on my last week of dianabol. If anyone else has any input good or bad please feel free to let me hear it.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 26, 2001 02:40 PM

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No problem bert. I just re-read what I said and wasnt very detailed.

Ok gyno can be caused by either high estrogen levels or high progestin = progesterone levels. Eq, test, dbol and so on all raise test levels in the body which can convert to higher estrogen levels. These high estrogen levels can cause gyno, female fat distribution patterns and water retention which can then lead to blood pressure problems. Deca however can convert to progesterone (I use convert for not having a better word at memory). This can cause gyno which is not reversible or aidable via the use of anti estrogens such as proviron and nolvadex. They will only work with the steroids that cause high estrogen levels. So unless you can get some RU 486 which will help the eq would be a much better choice. As if you do get gyno you have the tools on hand to counter it. Some people claim winny will help but it does not work on everyone. I recently came off a deca test cycle because I didnt have RU 486 and started getting gyno. Its funny though that when on test at 1000mgs before I havent ever had problems with gyno.

Peace


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JayisCrazy

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posted February 26, 2001 03:52 PM

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Be careful Bro...I felt the effects of Deca at only 350mgs a week.

Good luck,

Jay


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