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Stew Meat

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posted February 26, 2001 12:43 AM

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http://www.createdperfection.com/cycle2.htm

What do you think?
It's for a novice...


-Stew

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MUSTANG_18

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posted February 26, 2001 01:11 AM

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I LIKE IT! EVEN THOUGH IT IS VERY COMPLICATED TO LOOK AT HAVE YOU TRIED IT? THE ONLY THING I WOULD CHANGE WOULD BE TO KEEP THE PRIMO DOSE STEADY AT 300-400MG/WEEK AND NOT DIVIDE IT. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ANY OTHER OPINIONS ON THIS CYCLE.

M18

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Seifer

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posted February 26, 2001 01:21 AM

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damn man you've gotta have some serious $$$$ for this one!!!!!


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EmptyWallet

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posted February 26, 2001 01:23 AM

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Yeah I dont think I have near that much money for that. Could you sub or leave some things out??

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Stew Meat

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posted February 26, 2001 01:33 AM

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It's not going to cost me much at all.

Besides... it's for a friend. I don't use or condone the use of illegeal anabolic steroids


-Stew


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Daeo

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posted February 26, 2001 01:55 AM

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Heya Stew. I've been meaning to get back to you on this cycle. I like it. I wouldn't taper the dbol myself though. I've tried it both ways and I never felt the "crash" as everyone said you would if you didn't taper. Another thing, don't you think the primo dosages are a bit light? 300mg is the minimum I've ever heard anyone going with good results. I've used 400mg and it was nothing earth shattering. Also I'd use the clomid at 300mg for the first day but otherwise this cycle looks very good...

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MeanOne

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posted February 26, 2001 02:05 AM

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Well from what I can tell, it looks like this individual is trying a LONG tranistional cycle. For reasons of receptor clearancing, endrocrine system recovery, health, and the body's constantly hightened ability to process hormones throughout all 20+ weeks, I do not like it.

If one was to do a transitional cycle, I might suggest something a little more relaxed, not only on the variety of drugs, but the overall time on.

Here might be one idea:
Weeks 1-4:
Anadrol - 50mgs/day
Enanthate - 700mgs/wk (if it's T200)
Eq - 300mgs a week
Weeks 5-8
Fina - 75mgs EOD
Propinate - 200mgs EOD
Primobolan - 400mgs/wk

Clomid/HCG recovery

Repeat.

OR this might not be bad:

Weeks 1-4
Dbol 35mgs/day
Sustanon 750mgs on week one, 500mgs for the following 2, then 250mgs for the fourth
Deca 200mgs/wk
Weeks 5-8
50mgs of winstrol/day
150mgs of propinate EOD
400mgs of Primobolan/wk

There's really a ton of things you could do, but remember, what good is a ton of muscle if it will cause you cancer, or other health related issues, because you were one for 5+ months. Just some opinions, it's not biblical word, so don't slay me, lol.


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Stew Meat

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posted February 26, 2001 03:07 AM

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I taper everything.
The test Heptylate and EQ don't appear to be tapered, but the taper lies in the ester's release of hormone into the bloodstream as well as the affinity to carrier proteins. I will always taper. The dbol is only to aid in receptor site saturation -start gains faster. As far as being too much strain on receptors... Receptors will not downregulate. And the world is not flat.
However, your body will become more efficeint at metabolizing the above average level of hormone. This has been avoided by employing a different enzyme specific androgen method. There are different enzymes used to metabolize test than there are primobolan and different enzymes that react to break down oxandralone. That was in fact the cause of my break in primobolan. It was to prevent the liver from increasing the metabolizing efficency of the primo. As you can see, there is a significant break before I started my cycle of winny. That break should have been long enough to prevent the enzymes that broke down the test from breaking down the Winstrol.

-Stew


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Stew Meat

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posted February 26, 2001 06:37 PM

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bump


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panerai

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posted February 26, 2001 07:23 PM

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You used Heptylate? How was it compare to enanthate? It's the same thing, but many claim that Heptylate is SO much better,what do you think?
Cycle looks good for the begginer.IMO,a little long,I wouldn't let first time user do cycle longer then 12 weeks.


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Stew Meat

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posted February 27, 2001 02:30 AM

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Judging soley by people's experiences with heptylate, I'll say they are not the same thing. I use the term heptylate loosly.
I really mean Theramax. Their protein seems to be superior to all other brands. Heptylate may in fact be enthanate but when you look at the results that people get with Theramax as opposed to any other enthanate, the difference is more than marginal.


-Stew


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