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 HCG use, long term.
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 262 |
I am planning a long sustanon cycle. I was wanting to use HCG right through to keep my boys working. From what I have read you shouldn't use HCG for more than 3 weeks, and then take 4 weeks off. Apparently long term use can permanently effect natural production. Do people with knowledge about HCG think I would be safe using it non-stop if I only took it at the low 1000iu dose? I suppose I could take a couple of weeks off HCG every 8 weeks or so, but I'd prefer not to.     | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2002 |
Make sure you use an anti e. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
Iron, I was planning on using proviron and clomid as well. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 11 |
Bump. I'd like an answer to this question too. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 261 |
A friend of mine took 500 IU (not 5000) subcutaneously ED for 10-12 days, along with 50mg clomid ED for those 10 days plus 1-2 weeks afterward. Very effective, nuts came back, no estrogen problems. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 672 |
HCG WILL raise your estrogen levels along with your test levels...making gyno a very real possiblity. I wouldn't take it long term. Maybe once mid cycle and once at the end..right before you start CLOMID. Personally I wouldn't use it at all. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
Why wouldn't you use it at all? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
I think what lizzy is asking is will long term, non-stop use of HCG, i.e. many months, affect his natural testosterone production permanently after he has finished his cycle. Since he is only planning to take low doses, not the high doses the warnings are issued about, then maybe this permanent side-effect won't apply to him. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 672 |
I wouldn't use it long term for the reason I said (gyno, etc...). When you use it just for a short time the effect is temporary..once it wears of the nuts will shut right back down again....so whats the point???? HCG stimulates the testes directly where CLOMID stimulates the whole H-P-T axis...in other words it stimulates the bodily process that TELLS your testes to start producing test... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
I think what lizzy is asking is will long term, non-stop use of HCG, i.e. many months, affect his natural testosterone production permanently after he has finished his cycle. Since he is only planning to take low doses, not the high doses the warnings are issued about, then maybe this permanent side-effect won't apply to him? (or me too, since I would also would like to try this) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 672 |
It has been posted on here also that using a lot of HCG will make it difficult for your body to resume natural test production (the testes will be less sensitive to the hormone that tells it to ramp up test)...I just dont see a point in using it long term. If you can't handle a little testicular atrophy during your cycle dont juice... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 672 |
if your gonna due a long test cycle and your worried about your nuts working I would do maybe a midcycle round of HCG . This is my opinion. Some people take CLOMID throughout there cycle to keep the balls "full". This might be a better option. But again some people feel doing this will desensitize your body to CLOMID so when you REALLY need it after your cycle its not as effective | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
clomid doesn't fix the problem while still taking testosterone, it only fixes it after testosterone intake ends. I can handle testicular atrophy, but I see no point in it if it can be avoided. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 672 |
I wouldn't take clomid during a cycle either. Yeah nut atrophy can be avoided...but is is completey reverable after your cycle(a reasonable one!!) I would just live with it rather than taking a chance on gyno and my body having problems restoring natural test later because I used to much HCG or took it so long. Just my .02 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
I think i'll play it safe and stick to the 3 weeks on 4 weeks off routine. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2142 |
You don't want to use it long term and it is not the kind of thing you should worry about scheduling like this. When you get started you'll see what I mean you won't notice much loss in size until you pass your 6th-8th week. Use it as you feel you need it and use 1000iu/day for ten days and whammo they blow up fast. Then just wait until you feel you need it again. Don't just take it because of the calendar. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
Ok ulter, that sounds like good advice. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1218 |
lizzy,how long are you thinking to run your cyc? |
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posted February 25, 2001 08:21 AM