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 TTOKKYO getting bad feedback with Testonon and other products
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1337 |
First off please dont take this as a slam on TTOKKYO. I like them, BUT the proprietor of a certain granero in TJ has been getting ALOT of complaints about Testonon causing abcesses/infections as well as the anavar "not working for shit" and the Boldonon was getting bad marks too. The Oxandralone not working for shit is kind of hard to judge-guys might be taking 4 tabs a day and think its going to feel like anadrol. Ironically better feedback has been coming from Loeffler's Testosterona IV. ------------------     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 41 |
i seem to be leaning with to what you are saying bro. i have been on decca 300 for the last 5 weeks at 600mg's a week and honestly i don't really notice any big gains or anything. i bought two bottles of the stuff and i think i 'm going to phone my supplier and tell him to take the other one back. it could all be in my head. i'm on eq and winny. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 386 |
That cracks me up, everyone talking it up so much and then this... I will say this, my buddy got a nice little infection from the Testonon 250. Thats the only bad shit I have seen with my own two eyes. As for the Loeffler Test IV, a couple people I know like it so far, they are using a little more of it per week since they thought it would be underdosed. As I always said, Stick with what you KNOW works. Who wants to waste valuable time on a cycle that ends up being bullshit. ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2043 |
MKPs were you a big supporter of these products..how ironic..not bashing tokkyyo, they have some good products from what I hear...again personally never used them..more feed back..please | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 621 |
Well that sucks!! I am probably the only Texan that doesnt use Mexican products but for the whole for bodybuilder it's sad. You would think that a company would get it right and make good gear.Lowering cost is great for all of us but not when we have a compromised product. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1337 |
AnimalB, Yes initially TTOKKYO really busted ass to get their products properly dosed and uniform. I have a feeling that they are trying to get too many new products out too fast and they might not be able to keep up quality control while pumping out so much product. Heres the take on it. One of the owners of a granero has ALOT of complaints about the Testonon as I have said previously. Mind you this is a person who really doesnt like doing business with DENKALL because they wont bring the price down on some of their products. She is likely the LEAST biased person I would get any feedback from, also consider she is dealing with hundreds of customers per week. I still wont buy Denkall deca at $64 per vial but I am going to use TORNEL's 200mg deca at the nifty price of $39.00. I do,a nd always have stated that ULTRAGAN is very cost efficient at $22 per 1000mg. I will be gathering more info in the next few weeks. As always drop me a line if you have any other questions and I'll see if I can answer them for you. BTW If you wouldnt mind I'd like to see a post from you in regards to what Human and vet anabolics are sold in Peru and what they cost. Its always nice to have a reference for items all over the world. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 110 |
I think people are confusing the pain that propionate causes with an abcess. Everyone I know who has taken the Testanon has had great results but the shots are very painful and some have gotten the Sustanon flu. These are just normal for side effects for "real" Sustanon and does not mean it is dirty. I have seen many people use Ttokkyo products personally and not 1 complaint yet and I will continue using them until someone can "PROVE" otherwise; not fake lab tests, etc.. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 840 |
Bump for more opinions... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 924 |
I plan to use their 300mg deca on my next cycle what have you heard about that? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 428 |
Personal experience with the D-Bol,Good Stuff Training partners have used the Deca,best results they ever had. One friend is using the Deca and Anavar now,and likes it,but was skeptical to the Anavar,really being D-Bol instead.He has used Oxandrin and other Anavar and says it's alot different effect than those brands.He was more horny,and was getting nipple tenderness,something he never experinced with Anavar or Deca before. As far as the Sust.,I've only heard secondhand,that it's good,and causing no problems as others have stated.I'm also interested. YMKP's,Have you ever used the Testonon from Ttokkyo,or know anyone who has,without problems? ------------------ | ||
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Guru     
Posts: 5396 |
YMK email me when you have a moment please. Me personally I have EQ, Deca, and Dbol experience all were great. I messed around with the anavar but not long enough at high enough doses to really get a feel for it (waiting for the 5mg to come out). I know many people who have great results with the deca/dbol/eq vets/mods and some "real life" freinds/training buddies. The sustanon I havent tried firsthand so I cant comment personally on that. The anavar cant be dbol positevly b/c I was using the anavar and wasnt getting the dbol pump that comes relatively quickly. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 433 |
Two of the things I am currently taking are Ttokkyo deca and EQ. I like what I see so far. I have a hard time eating while taking anadrol, and the EQ has really helped with my appetite, so to me that is a huge plus. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 267 |
BUMP ------------------ | ||
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Cyborg
Posts: 4935 |
How long do I have to say this until people start listening? However, most of their products are good and well-dosed. The only problems are coming from the SUS and EQ. This is the first for the ANAVAR. ------------------
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 267 |
SUMMARY: D-BOL - METHANDIENONE 10 mg - GOOD ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1890 |
I love the EQ have been on it for 5 weeks at 800mg per week with great results and no absess...hmmm that is all the real life info i need, than take some friggen word of a guy (no offence) that could just be talking shit because Denkall is offering some free shit MY REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE AND OPINION Ttokkyo=Good ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
Are the ttokkyo products available in Acapulco, or are they just in T.J.?? i am heading down there in a few weeks, and want to know what they have in stock in the pharmacias, and/or vet stores. any advice is welcome. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 103 |
I have been on the testonon 250 for 2 weeks now. If I would not have got feed back from friends and this board I would have thought that I had an abcess or an infection. I'm still not sure because it hurts like hell for about 8 days. The 4th and 5th day I can barely walk and sitting down is out of the question. I am hoping this is just how my body reacts to the testonon. If this shouldn't be happening someon please tell me because my next shot is tommorrow and I am a little scared. later | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1353 |
Your soreness sounds like it's related to the prop. I think many people are mistaking the pain and swelling prop can induce with infection. Some people are super sensitive to prop...some don't feel it at all. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 55 |
so what is all of the shit talk about .is that just what it is shit talk .slopain you have had good reslts and some of the other vets have had good results and the mods .what is the big deal with the EQ and the sust250 being questionable is it just a side effect that all sust and EQ has no matter who makes it anybody else have any input | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
I'll tell ya what take a multiple cc shot of Testonon and you will wonder if something is wrong (infection, ect). The pain is amazing for sustaton!! I have used sustanon for years never with the kind of pain induced by the testonon product... By the way in 1cc shots at 1 1/2" depth the pain is what I feel is normal for sustanon. Step up to multiple cc's or reduce the depth to 1" and goddamn is it uncomfortable!!!! Also just for info the swelling associated with the multiple cc injection is alot more than I am used to, its very visible... [This message has been edited by 1Banshee (edited February 25, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1337 |
Its hard to say about the complaints. Alot of the whiners might just be stupid fucking kids coming in to "get big quick". Trust me-I see alot of people shopping and most dont know all that much other than rumors. I for one hope that these rumors/complaints are not true and everything works out. No other company has gone to any extent to really put feelers out and put a finger on the pulse of the market like TTOKKYO has. Look how long it took TORNEL (which I like) to put out a new product (200mg deca). ANd Brovel-well lets just say I wont buy their stuff unless it was the last stuff I could get. Bottom line- I pull for TTOKKYO but am kinda hanging back to see whats up. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 549 |
I have a bottle of thier EQ sitting in my cupboard. Hope this is all just smoke being blown around. On the other hand the worst pain I've ever experienced was from the IP Sust. I could hardly walk. Would limp badly for 4 days at a time. That was after I followed the instructions on cooking the shit down to drop the alcohol content. I stacked it with D-bol gaining roughly 20-25lbs. I missed quite a few workouts from the pain of the Sust. Can believe you would think abcess from that kinda pain. Mind yah I kept at. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 163 |
Got 3 Ttokkyo EQ, for cycle this summer....Keep us informed, first I've heard of such bad reports... | ||
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Guru
Posts: 5396 |
YMK I also have a motive why our good lady might be motivated to down play ttokkyo, I know she is losing some business due to the fact that ttokkyo stuff can be purchased cheaper elsewhere - I haven't spoken to her in a while but will next time Im down. I think ttokkyo will have this shit going on for a year or so the people who use it will continue to do so - and those that bash it will continue to do so I imagine (YMK Im not callin you a basher I know you to be pretty reputable in your claims). peace and fina grease ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 430 |
A lot of people myself included have had good results with ttokkyo products. I train hard and eat right though so I get results. A lot of people are always complaining how they don't see shit from this or that. There are too many variables to just start blaming the product. When one guy is on a ttokkyo boldenone only cycle and is getting good results I believe his diet and training are probably on. Too many people on this board substitute steroids for hard work and discipline. Don't always blame the product, you could be the one to blame. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 226 |
I have been using Ttokkyo testonon with great results. it hurts like no other sust. I have ever used, for several days! But I got the best best size and shape I have ever had on this cycle. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
I must agree with most of the posts above, I have used most of the ttokkyo products with great results!! I have no problem with the Eq... The Testonon is the only ttokkyo product I have ever any issues with. As I stated above in moderation and with proper depth the shots induce only slight pain (at least for me). I am still a big fan of the ttokkyo products and will continue to purchase them, until there is some proof I should not!!! Looking forward to the Winny and tren!!! As a side note the pain and swelling have subsided, it just took longer than usual. [This message has been edited by 1Banshee (edited February 26, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 840 |
I'm just really suprised that Damian hasn't said anything yet... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 267 |
SUMMARY: D-BOL - METHANDIENONE 10 mg - GOOD ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 824 |
it's posts like this that make me miss the hell out of san diego! thanks guys, you bastards...LOL PA | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 572 |
i got the resolution. for all who dislike ttokkyo procucts,please send all you have to me for proper disposal. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
I just did my first shot of Testonon 250 yesterday (1.5cc) with 1cc of Deca. I am real sore and a little swollen. It is nothing like the abscess I got from fake Windstrol, which still shows a red mark 2 months after it was drained! My abscess only got painful towards the end when pressure was applied. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
Guess I gotta add my 2 cents. This is the first time that I have ever used TTokkyo stuff or anything low androgen for that matter. I'm using anavar(2.5) and eq. Started with 200mg eq the first wekk then to 400mg. This is my 4th week. I felt the ana kick in real quick. I noticed one guy comparing it to d-bol. I wouldn't say that it is d-bol but I would say that I am getting just as much size without the water weight.(curious) As far as the eq goes I don't even feel anything the next day as far as the shot goes. Noticed it kicking in about the 3rd week. I didn't weigh myself before but I was around 260 or so. I currently am 272 as of 2 days ago. I am very pleased so far with TTokkyo. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 798 |
Damn good thing to know. I was getting ready to buy some of it. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
yeah man i thought it was just me but i was taking 4 dbals a day mon to fri.the 100 tabs lasted exactly 5 weeks and to tell you the truth i didnt gain any size but did in fact lose 6 pounds...figure that out! quote: | ||
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Novice 
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EQ Week 1/400mgs = didnt feel much but felt a little ill the next day after the shot. Week 2/600mgs = alot of boners and feeling crazy..eating alot of protein but not feeling that hungry Week 3/600mgs = alot more boners and I have seemed to gain about 5 pounds. This is my first cycle however and was told to expect alot of gains. Overall, I only felt a little sick the day after I took my first shot of the EQ. I havent had any side effects. No absess or painful injections 3 of my buddies started the ttokkyo sus at the same time as I started the EQ. They are constantly complaing about the painful injections. This is their 3rd week as well. All three gained 5-10 pounds so far. This is their first cycle as well. -ed | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
Just got back from a chest and arm session at a friend's house. I realize this was on a different scale but I weighed 277. It felt like my skin was goin to spit on my arms. I'm not so sure how this low androgen stuff is supposed to feel but if it wasn't for the fact I'm not retaining any water I could swear I was on "D" and test. So far I'm a HUGE fan of Ttokkyo.(anavar and EQ)got the flu about a week ago and didn't lift but I didn't lose any strength. Peace | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
I got the EQ, will use it at the end of my test/durabolin cycle. I have however used the 200mg/ml prop from IP. I thought I had abcesses and infections from that stuff, however after 4-5 days the swelling, redness and pain subsided and I was left with a knot that went away in another 4-5 days. Eight days of pain would make me suspect. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
Bump, for any new info or actual experiences... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 48 |
Well this is my experience: I started my cycle on the 18th(last sunday): It's only been 9 days on anavar and my strength is already way up. I know it's not the EQ so 2 thumbs up for ttokkyo anavar!!! Hope this helped.
P.S. By the way I ordered more anavar..hehehe. [This message has been edited by Maxx Out (edited February 27, 2001).] |
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posted February 25, 2001 03:42 AM
