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nerkyreb

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posted February 25, 2001 03:25 AM

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I'm getting ready to start my 2nd cycle, and after 4 months of research I'm torn between two programs.

To give a little background on myself, I'm 5'7 150 and in my early 20s. I did a 10 wk cycle of sus 6 months ago and gained 12 (145-157), although honestly I wasn't eating or sleeping as best I should.

I've read many boards and profiles, and have talked to more experenced users, but two 10 wk cycles seem to stick out:

A) Sus Deca Dbol
250/wk 200/wk 4/day(1st 8 wks)

B) Cyp EQ
200/wk 200/wk

1)I really the first one better, but I have some concerns about the dbol considering I'm starting to recede a little, making the 2nd safer. Ideally I'd like to get to 170-180 lbs, but I know this may be unrealistic. Is there a better way to get there? One thing I do know is that I'll take in 250g protein & 8hrs sleep religiously this time.

2)Would 3wks of nolvadex at the end be enough protection,or should I use clomid too?

3) My friend swears that winny will helpme keep my gains if I do it for 4 wks after. Is this a good idea or a waste of money?

4) How often can I work each muscle group on this cycle?

Thank you so much for your help!
Nerky


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FUZZDOG

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posted February 25, 2001 04:06 AM

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2)Would 3wks of nolvadex at the end be enough protection,or should I use clomid too?

Unless you have gyno, don't take the nolva. It's for your boobs. Yes use the clomid. It's for your nuts. Fuzz


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rainhorn

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posted February 25, 2001 04:06 AM

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you dont need yet to cyc you can get more solid results with good diet and training program


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FUZZDOG

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posted February 25, 2001 04:06 AM

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that too.


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Mass Monster

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posted February 25, 2001 04:14 AM

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I am with Rain, do the sus and d-bol, I don't recommend the Deca because, lets see, oh yea it suck! But, thats just my opinion. Plus for a second cycle of sus at 500mg for 8 weeks and 35mg/ day of d-bol. With a good diet and lots of sleep you should grow quite nicely!

Mass Monster


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 25, 2001 07:56 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by rainhorn:
you dont need yet to cyc you can get more solid results with good diet and training program

Well said that man. No flame bro but if you dont know what nolvadex or clomid are for then you shouldnt even thing about the use of steroids.


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prn1972

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posted February 25, 2001 09:58 AM

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I would go with the Test Cyp/D-bol/Deca cycle. About to go on this same cycle myself. I have no problem with Deca but some poeple don't like it & will use EQ instead. You could use Sus 250 instead of the Cyp if you want, both are Test. Go with 6-8 tabs of D-bol a day for no more than 6 weeks, you can run the Test & Deca out to 8-10 weeks, i like to go 12 weeks. Don't use more than 600 mgs of deca a week. Use Clomid about 2 weeks after last injection, this will lower the estorgan in your body that the roids have raised & it will also kick your natural test back in. The Novadex is only used if you see signs of gyno coming on after the cycle is done.


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BIGIRISH

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posted February 25, 2001 11:29 AM

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WHAT EVER ONE YOU GO WITH,TAKE IN AT LEAST 3000 TO 5000CALS A DAY....NO CARDIO TILL THE END!!


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hooch

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posted February 25, 2001 11:35 AM

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if you use sust I wouldn' start Clomid till 3 weeks after my last shot...


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