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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 24, 2001 10:22 PM

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I definitely have come down with gyno. I have tissue under my nipple which i can feel (how couldn't I!?) The left is worse than the right but both have some fatty tissue underneath. I don't have direct access to nolvadex. I don't know where to get it BUT I NEED IT BADLY AND QUICK. How long would it take for the gyno to be uncurable?

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posted February 24, 2001 10:29 PM

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4 days is that possible.

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ItalianSweetness

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yes, parabellum i swear on my left nipple It is possible.

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posted February 24, 2001 10:34 PM

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This is something that would have been much easier to remedy if you had some anti-estragens on hand when you did your cycle. (a must) But now that it is an emergency, you may consider going to the doctor. They have to respect your confidentiality, and can't refuse you service. Tell them you need an anti-estrogen. This may be better than waiting util you have permanent damage (only fixable by surgery) You can always do the call around thing. Call local doctors and see who is the sports medicine guru. You could always tell them you took too much androstene. There is also a over the counter anti-estrogen, it is called Chrysin. Good luck.


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Parabellum

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posted February 24, 2001 10:35 PM

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I've been using tren for at least three months. Low doses.

But I'm a fat fuck, I swear I have gyno. But I need to diet to really see.

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schlong

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posted February 24, 2001 11:13 PM

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Hate to tell you that the gyno from tren is progesterone (sp) and not curable from nolvadex.

It is the same type gyno you get from Deca, and I think the only help is from Winny but you need to have already started the winny with tren.

You should be able to stop the Tren since it is a fast acting AS it should go away.

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posted February 24, 2001 11:17 PM

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I think starting at 200mg was too much. Maybe try 75mg EOD, its working well for me.


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Hate to tell you that the gyno from tren is progesterone (sp) and not curable from nolvadex.

It is the same type gyno you get from Deca, and I think the only help is from Winny but you need to have already started the winny with tren.

You should be able to stop the Tren since it is a fast acting AS it should go away.


stop your cycle now, and stay off for a few weeks, it should go away. when you start up again stack it with some winny or some ru-486

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posted February 24, 2001 11:25 PM

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yep schlong's (er richard's) got it right

well, I guess we know now, tren can cause gyno
bummer


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benzo27

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posted February 25, 2001 12:03 AM

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Schlong is right, you cant cure this gyno with nolva. You should stack the tren with winny. It helps with proestrogen induced gyno


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JohnyJuice

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posted February 25, 2001 01:45 AM

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4 days???? are you sure you have pure trenbolone and not the revalor shit with estrogendiol in it?


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200mg ed is a lot. If you are prone, then 4 days is plenty. If you can get some ru-486 asap then dont stop. Winny could work also. I would decrease the dose anyway. If you dont have access to those, then stop.

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posted February 25, 2001 02:14 AM

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definintely a bummer -- just follow burnboy's directions and hopefully, all will be ok-tomo


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posted February 25, 2001 02:16 AM

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you make it sound like a cold "i caught some gyno"

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posted February 25, 2001 02:25 AM

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4 days? Wow.


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Hey Sweet, can you post a couple pics of your gyno? It may not be as bad as you think. Post some pics and get everyone's info. A little fat under the nipple will sometimes go away with some high-intense cardio and some Clomid. Anyway, I prefer Proviron over Nolvadex. Nolvadex has been known to actually worsen the effects and cause more gyno in some cases. This isn't the case with Proviron. If you can get a hold of some Arimidex, you'd be even better off.

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littlearnold1069

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posted February 25, 2001 11:56 AM

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next time take 25 mg EOD of winny, check out the fina board, browndog1 started a thread a while back talking about this same exact thing, i beleive he said that the winny helped a ton

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ItalianSweetness

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Excuse my language fellas but this fukin sucks......I can't believe this shit happened . I don't want to stop the tren(It's working to well!) I am down to 50mg.s every day with propinate at 100 every day. I dont' have access to armidex or proviron. I can't get winny because i don't have the money. By lowering the dosage to 50mg.s a day, doing a lot of cardio and so on ....can i control the gyno that way?
-----I have clomid but was going to save it after for after the cycle ....should i start it now and will this help? Sorry for all the questions but i am going nuts here
-----And what is this revalor stuff that i am hearing about?

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Also, I truly apologize for my lack of knowledg in the area of gyno. I have done my research on all my steroids but i have failed to catch up on GYNO. I was one of the idiots who said "NOT ME, I CAN'T GET GYNO" and look.....i got burned. So i am sorry i sound like a newbie on the whole situation. I am currently doing searches on it to learn. Peace and thanx.

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posted February 25, 2001 04:07 PM

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you can also go and get it removed. A buddy of mine did that. He just juiced hard until gyno came and then had it out, still juices hard and no gyno.


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posted February 25, 2001 04:10 PM

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Even 50mgs daily of tren is a pretty hefty dose..and I'm usually a high-dose advocate.
Perhaps I didn't read carefully, but why are you convinced it's the tren and not the testo? If you have no money, your solution may be to quicky taper off of this cycle and wait til you have the proper ancilleries before you start again.


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schlong

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ItalianS if I remember correctly you are already pretty cut with little body fat.

You could have gyno from the prop and not the Tren, lower the Tren the way you said and hit some Nolvadex and see if the signs go away, if not you might have to stop all together.

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Sweetness, you need to take it easy if you want your gyno to slow up. Try something like fina 75 mg EOD and go from there. Also, I would keep the prop at 100mg EOD if you don't have any anti-est. If you have enough clomid for 50mg EOD AND enough for 100mg ED for 2 weeks after your cycle, then throw it in. If not, save it. Be safer and keep the dosages lower in the future if you don't have the means to combat the gyno.


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ItalianSweetness

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This is a 2 week cycle ....thats why the dosages are high. I will never do this quick 2 week cycle thing again because for me the side effects are worse! I though that most effects wouldn't take place until well after the 4 week mark in a regular cycle but i thought wrong. I will start the clomid eod today and i will keep dosing 50mgs. of tren...100mgs of prop. a day. Will the clomid be enough to fight the prop's effects? After, all the tren at 50mgs a day shouldn't be the culprit for the gyno. Am i right?

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I always try to avoid anything that causes progesterone based gyno. Information late but info all the same. I still would love to try an A-Bomb stack with some Winny to balance the sides. Good luck mang.


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Bubba, Anadrol + Winny = Dianabol. And that's not what you want,otherwise, you would just take Dianabol. Anadrol's building muscles effect is possible, because of its binding to progesteron receptor, so you have to play on the edge here. Just have Winny handy, in case if gyno starts,but don't use it,unless it's absolutely nessesery.


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Bubba, Anadrol + Winny = Dianabol. And that's not what you want,otherwise, you would just take Dianabol. Anadrol's building muscles effect is possible, because of its binding to progesteron receptor, so you have to play on the edge here. Just have Winny handy, in case if gyno starts,but don't use it,unless it's absolutely nessesery.


If you are gonna use Winny to combat the progesterone type gyno from Anadrol, Deca & Fina, you need to have it already in the system to occupy the receptors not afterwards from what I understand.

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I got gyno from 75mgs eod of fina, and I noticed it on about the fourth day or so(give or take a day). I just stopped the fina, and continued with my IP winny. I didn't research enough to know that you were supposed to use the winny a week or two before the fina. I started them at the same time, and I got burned. However, the gyno stopped a few days after my last fina inj, and I've been fine ever since.

Good luck bro! I hope things workout for ya soon.

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Starting Winny before,if using Deca,I agree,it kind of make sense.But with Fina or especially Anadrol,why? They are so fast acting.Even,if you don't have Winny,if you stop using Anadrol with the first signs of gyno,it will not progress.Adding Winny just will let you to go on with the cycle.


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posted February 25, 2001 09:01 PM

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bump, some good points being brought up in this discussion. Beeing that trenbolone and winny are both fast acting, why would you have to front load the winny?


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LOL man, and here i was getting all interested in Fina and now i hear this talk of gyno here gyno there, gyno everywhere..oh well..just say no for me.


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Damn sorry to hear about the gyno man, i know how bad it sucks to get that small little lump and when there is nothing you can do about it. Deca did it for me but i was taking an absurd dosage too, 600mg a week. OUCH!

Hey, i know what you can do: Go get your nipples pierced. Seriously, i got on this crazy kick this Friday night, and got both of mine pierced with 10 gauges, and now you cant even tell i have any sort of gyno. My nips are pretty much hard a lot of the time, and even if they poke out, it just looks like it was from the piercing. Im just a crazy motherfucker, so maybe thats not a good idea for you.

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Good info. Thanks for the replies to my idea. How fast acting is Winny? I thought it started bonding right away to receptors?


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