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gymdawg

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posted February 24, 2001 01:11 PM

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i HAVE ENOUGH SUSTANON FOR 500mg for 8 weeks, my question is will I get 15,20lbs out of this cycle,it's my first, also how much clomid do I need at what dosage?
thanks for any help in advance bro's, also am new to the board, whats up everyone!


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ironbarbarian

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posted February 24, 2001 01:16 PM

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yes you will gain that at least...you will to take 50mg of clomid every other day two weeks before ending cycle, then for 3 more weeks 50mg every day once cycle ends.

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whodaman

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posted February 24, 2001 01:18 PM

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if you eat tons of protein, work out hard, and get enough rest, you should be able to get 10-15 solid pounds. Clomid start 3 weeks after your last shot. 100mg a day for one week 50mg a day for two weeks after should be sufficient.


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whodaman

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posted February 24, 2001 01:21 PM

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Ironbarbarrian, the sust will not be out of his system until at least three weeks after his last shot....why would you have him stop his clomid use when the sust may still be surpessing his natural test levels? It doesn't make too much sense to me. Sust can be active 3-4 weeks after your last shot.

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ironbarbarian

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posted February 24, 2001 01:30 PM

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well, i take my clomid two weeks before last shot cos i like its mild anti-e's effects..i then take it for 2 more weeks at 50mg eod after last shot, then for 3 more weeks, 50mg ed.... thats what i do, i just didnt want to writr all that... but i have done it as i explained previously, and have noticed no differing results. not evreything is theory you know. personal practize is vital.


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stups

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posted February 24, 2001 01:30 PM

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I agree w/ whodaman on the clomid issue...and yes u should gain between 10-20lbs.depends on diet, rest, etc


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hooch

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posted February 24, 2001 02:31 PM

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like whodaman said...start CLOMID 3 weeks AFTER last shot. On day one of CLOMID I did 300mg...then started day 2 at 100mg ED for two weeks. worked great for me


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MUSTANG_18

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posted February 24, 2001 02:42 PM

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I AGREE WITH WHODAMAN 100% GOOD ADVICE BRO!
MAKE SURE YOU EAT THOSE CALS, HAPPY GROWING


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rodman

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Think back to the first time you got drunk? Did you go out and pound a case of beer when you were 16? Probably not, if you could, props to you. Same way with your receptors: they are very clean right now, you should start off with the 250mg a week, keep track of your body. You can always go up, just remember, "what goes up, must come down.." As for the Clomid, the guys are right, you need to wait for the last blend to leave your system, at least a couple of weeks after your last injection. hope it works well for you, my girl just snagged me some redi's from down south, keep me posted!!


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mike peters

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posted February 26, 2001 02:31 AM

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Man stack that shit w/ some dbol, deca, or primo. Use something w/ it. Also as the others said, force that food down, train like an animal and get plenty rest.


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-Falcon-

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posted February 26, 2001 06:00 AM

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Bro, it's your first cycle so start off slow to see how your body will react to it...your receptors may take well to small doses, but 500mg will for sure kick in real nice for a beginner. Whatever you decide, take your time and research first...knowledge is power

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Mass Monster

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posted February 26, 2001 06:21 AM

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I don't know about this whole starting of slow thing. I mean your receptor are clean and this is when you are going to get the biggest gains easies. However it will take the sus 4 weeks to be active(except the 30mg of test-prop) which to utilize u need a shot ever 2 days but don't worry about that. Just take 500mg a week for 8 weeks, don't taper. You may want to use some d-bol to kick-start your cycle and build your strength up. As for the clomid, do not wait till 3 weeks after your last shot. Are u trying to lose your nuts or something??? Just take it a week after at 100mg ed and then 50mg ed for a week, then 50mg eod for the last week. The sus will still be active and if you keep eating right, sleeping, and lifting hard you will keep growing. But the clomid will have your natural test levels coming up so you don't crash your system when you can't produce natural test. And I am sure you are not gong to want to crash and lose all of your gains, so take my advice.

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Ramstack

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posted February 26, 2001 06:33 AM

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Since it's your 1st cycle, you should stack with something else for even better and greater gains, try Deca/Eq od D-bol, and why is everyone suggesting he take so much clomid, 50mg EOD for 2 weeks should work well if he's only on the sust...

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-Falcon-

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posted February 26, 2001 06:46 AM

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Mass Monster, you're right about the fresh receptors, but too much of a gain too quickly is hard on the body to take....example of why you lose so much after
a cycle of Anadrol, too much too soon......

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