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babyfaced monster

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posted February 24, 2001 12:28 PM

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waz up, if i happen to start noticing gyno from fina, would nolva help? or is winny the only answer to it?


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 24, 2001 12:36 PM

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Trenbelone does not aromitize into estrogen at ANY dosage.The only way it could conceivably cause gyno is through activation of the progesterone receptor(P/R).So no,nolvadex won't help there,as tren has no estrogenic capabilities to begin with.Winny is a better candidate to compete at the P/R...


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babyfaced monster

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posted February 24, 2001 12:41 PM

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yeah i got tren (fina-h) so gyno is something i shouldnt have to worry about?


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EmptyWallet

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posted February 24, 2001 12:57 PM

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I think it depends if your prone to Prog gyno. I hope to hell I'm not because I'm about to start my fina. I havent heard alot of people talk about getting gyno from the 75mg EOD dosage, but then again you could be the small percentage that would. Do you get gyno from deca? Wouldnt it be the same thing?

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babyfaced monster

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posted February 24, 2001 01:07 PM

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never tried deca, im doing 66mg eod because of my 30ml/33mg vial


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Clambake

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posted February 24, 2001 01:30 PM

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See - they're swearing (Bill Roberts) that Trenbolone acetate has no progesterone activation, that Dan Duchaine started this rumour because there's another Trenbolone (allyl, I think) that is progestogenic. He says the veterinary companies say no pregesterone from it.

Only way it can cause gyno according to him is through upregulating aromatase.

Me - I don't know. But the guy usually knows his shit in these areas.


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panerai

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posted February 24, 2001 02:05 PM

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I find it's hard to believe.Active ingredient is active ingredient and ester can alter some of the properties of it,but can't change them completely.
If some "other" Trenbolone can activate progesteron receptor,so should be able Trenbolone acetate.
Upregulate aromatise? Hm..sound very unrealistic.If one has normal not elevated amount of estrogen to what degree should aromatise be upgradet to cause gyno?


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Clambake

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posted February 25, 2001 01:12 AM

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Here's the quote:

"...trenbolone is reported in the veterinary literature to not have progestagenic effects, and nowhere that I have found was it ever reported to have progestagenic effects. However, another steroid, allyl trenbolone, is a progestin. I expect Dan Duchaine, who was the one who started this rumor about trenbolone, had allyl trenbolone confused with trenbolone. Especially because his exact statment was, "trenbolones are progestagenic." That implies to me he was thinking of a family of drugs including allyl trenbolone, which is the only other trenbolone. However the allyl compound is very different and there is no carryover in that property."


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JohnyJuice

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posted February 25, 2001 01:41 AM

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fuckin a. i would like to hear some more opinions on this, as i am going to start fina soon mooooo


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