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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted February 23, 2001 09:35 PM

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Let me make sure I got this straight, the ideas of steroid receptor downregultion and having to wait 2 months after your cycle to start a new one because your receptors have to re-charge are a couple of bullshit myths? Therefore, a two week bridge with clomid just to give the body a break between cycles will a allow somebody to go back "on" and make the same amount of gains than if he would have waited two months to start his next cycle?

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Statechamp

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posted February 23, 2001 09:50 PM

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It goes beyond the receptores. The rest period gives your body a rest from the stress of fast growth. It is in your best interest to rest (no matter the receptors).

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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted February 23, 2001 10:12 PM

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StateChamp, thanks for responding, but I have a question for you: how is growing stressful to the body? I understand liver stress or even prostate stress, but I don't see how the body is stressed from growing muscle. Also, do you agree that the receptor downregualtion and regeneration theories are bullshit? Please explain, I appreciate your opinions.

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strong-weapon

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posted February 23, 2001 10:15 PM

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i'm with juan will someone please clarify this
i was stuck in a small town for the last two years---no gym, no gear,no decent literature, no computer
used to be pretty knowledgable and big-already working on the big part again but please help my knowledge grow

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WC

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posted February 23, 2001 10:22 PM

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a lot of people do not take breaks, but still gain, look at the pros for example. However, like anything else you introduce into your body, your body will get used to it and build tolerances to it. This is where more and more gear is needed to keep growing. If for example, you start out at 500mg sus for 15 weeks, pretty soon you dont gain anymore, you up it to 1000, then 1500, then 2000, and so on and so on. Taking a break lowers your tolerance to the drugs. So you can come back and hit 500 again, or 750 and still achieve good results. Just like when you were in HS and 1 beer got ya drunk. Alcoholics can drink TONS of beer and not be as blasted as I get off 1 beer due to the fact I have only drank 9 beers, but you get the point. Yes, your body DOES need a rest from growing, and gear.


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Statechamp

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posted February 23, 2001 10:37 PM

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When you do anything faster than your body's natural physiological way then you are placing stress on it. It just seems so basic that I can't explain any further.

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Stew Meat

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posted February 24, 2001 01:15 AM

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WC hit the nail on the head. It is not about receptors it is about tolerance.
In my opinion it is all BS myths about letting the receptors clear out. AS will INCREASE the number of receptors. I know for a fact that there is NO downregulation of receptors sites.
The problem with long cycles is that you build up a tolerance faster than you increase receptor concentration. The tolerance is due to the liver's ability to metabolise your gear. It's the same way that some one who drinks a lot is hard to get drunk, but someone who doesn't ever drink will get a good buzz off of one beer. It's not about receptors, it's about tolerance. Stay off for a while, and you'll loose your tolerance.


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vdevil

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posted February 24, 2001 09:40 AM

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I am currently bridging from a 15 week big time bulking into a cutting cycle. I made mad gains and I am currently only taking 200 mgs of primo a week now 4 weeks postcycle, and I have yet to lose a bit of strength. I did lose my water, but thats it. No real size. I plan to use dnp at 400mg a week fo about two weeks in short bit. For the sole purpose of "cleaning" out the receptors so I can go right into another bulking cycle without having to take super high ammounts of each drug to get the desired results.
Now, i am not exactly sure about the exact mechanism by which dnp does this.
There really is not anything extensive on this in the archives.
Macro has elaborated on this subject a few times, as well as others.

I believe this to be the case as well.
Anyone else have an opinion on this subject of receptor cleaning with dnp?


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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted February 24, 2001 02:45 PM

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"Bump" for receptor cleaning with DNP

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Deppnade

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posted February 24, 2001 03:04 PM

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ill bump it cause this is my exact question in another thread of mine

juan, im with you, i dont think my body has been that taxedon a moderate bulking cycle of sus and deca, i would even call it a basic one, so yes, it takes 3-4 weeks for sus to get out of the system, but why wait another 2 weeks when u can hit it up again after 4 weeks?????


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Deltzilla

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posted February 24, 2001 04:55 PM

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The best and quickest way to clear out your receptors is to up your metabolism. And DNP, T3, Clen, ECA, cardio, etc..all do this. Imagine a full mall parking lot where all the parking spots are receptors. The mall closes and everyone rushes to their cars. Now fast forward this and see how much faster the lot clears out....best analogy I can think of on such sort notice...lol


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BIG HURT

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posted February 24, 2001 05:25 PM

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WC has my vote

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Mass Monster

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posted February 24, 2001 05:49 PM

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I am with WC, just like anything your tolerance will build and your body will become immune to the drug as your body adapts. I personally take at least 4 months off between cycles so this does not happen. Also I like to rest my body and stabilize my liver enzymes and any other sides that may have started to occur. Another good reson is to try to solidify you gains and push your boby somewhat naturally for a while then cycle again. Another reason is there are plenty of drugs such as sus that will be active for a month after your cycle so take adavtage. My opinion is take a break get lots of sleep and eat as if you were cycling and just prepare mentally for your next one for maximum gains!

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lizzy

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posted February 25, 2001 08:58 AM

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I have heard that your body gets, shall we say, tired, after about 8 weeks of intensive training so its a good idea to take a couple of weeks out. You could theoretically do this during a long steroid cycle I suppose.

Maybe take advantage of the steroids in your system to diet for a couple of weeks and not lose the muscle then continue bulking again after your break.

Another theory I have heard is that people stop eating as much as their bulking cycles progress. Because they also put on muscle which increases their metabolism they have fewer surplus calories, hence slowing growth.

There may be nothing to any of this, but its something to consider.


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