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PokeMeMon

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posted February 23, 2001 06:21 PM

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ok.....I am eating clean no matter how small i look. Based on my other post i need to eat a lot more calories but wholesome food. If i weigh 180lbs, and 5"10 can you please tell me the CARB/PROTIEN/FAT ratio and Calorie intake in which I will need to eat to Gain QUALITY MUSCLE and be DENSE, not necessarily ripped. BUT I WANT TO LOOK HARD!!!! thank you so much, i need you!!!


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Beezers

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posted February 23, 2001 07:12 PM

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First of all if you want to gain mass your going to have to sacrifice some of that hard appearance and cuts...It just does not work that way. In the calorie surplus needed for gains in body mass you will hold additional water and wont have the ability to loose fat. Trying to stay lean and bulk is why most never get big. You're chasing conflicting goals. They will cancel each other out and you won't go either way...either cut or bulked. Only you can determine the calorie requirement for your self. A good starting point would probably be 4000 cals a day.


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MP5

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posted February 23, 2001 07:13 PM

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amen. Bulk first, cut later.

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Beezers

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posted February 23, 2001 07:16 PM

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First of all if you want to gain mass your going to have to sacrifice some of that hard appearance and cuts...It just does not work that way. In the calorie surplus needed for gains in body mass you will hold additional water and wont have the ability to loose fat. Trying to stay lean and bulk is why most never get big. You're chasing conflicting goals. They will cancel each other out and you won't go either way...either cut or bulked. Only you can determine the calorie requirement for your self. A good starting point would probably be 4000 cals a day.

300g protein=1200 calories
500g carbs=2000 calories
89g fat=800 calories
total=4000 calories

It's only a rough outline as many factors will determine your calorie needs. Metabolism, training, and lifestyle all play important roles in determining your energy requirements. The one thing that is uniform for all humans is the fact that you MUST consume more calories than your body uses in order to gain body mass. Hopefully your training will dictate that that body mass is muscle mass.


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Pharm Animal

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posted February 23, 2001 11:37 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Beezers:
300g protein=1200 calories
500g carbs=2000 calories
89g fat=800 calories
total=4000 calories

that's an unrealistic fat goal for that amount of calories....he'll be getting about 120-200 fat grams with a typical bulking diet.....anything less than 100 grams a day is a cutting cycle for most people who eat >4000 cals a day

100 grams fat = 900 calories

900/4000 = about 22-23% fat in the diet

100 grams of fat is not hard to get when you're eating lots of food


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Beezers

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posted February 24, 2001 10:35 AM

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I have no problems getting that amount of fat without going over it. Typical bulking diet doesn't have to include 120 grams of fat just because it's bulking. Clean foods and carefull planning and you can get the optimal amount of every macro-nutrient. He may need more fat, but there's no need to load up on grease and lard just for the sake of bulking.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 24, 2001 11:39 AM

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LUVS,you need to build a foundation(size) first,before you worry about the finishing touches(sharpness/cuts).Listen to the above advice...


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