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 1st Cycle Help Please
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Novice 
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Getting ready for first cycle. Got 20 amps of Cyctahoh 250 and 50 tabs of Clomid and can get Nolva if needed. Was thinking of the following cycle: Week1: 750 Sus Week2: 750 Sus Week3-8: 500 Sus When do I add Clomid? Do I need to worry about Gyno? Any suggestions from experience is appreciated. Should I change this cycle? What about Sus pain? Don't want to waste the gear! What about cardio, I'm 300 lbs. @ 18% bodyfat? I've seen all this stuff in previous posts, but see conflicting opinions. [This message has been edited by Furio (edited February 22, 2001).]    | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1151 |
I WOULD TRY TO GET THE BF% DOWN A LITTLE BEFORE STARTING THE CYCLE. THE CYCLE SOUNDS GOOD. YOU WILL NEED CLOMID POST CYCLE, START WITH 100MG/DAY FOR WEEK 9, 50MG/DAY FOR WEEK 10 AND 50MG/EOD FOR WEEK 10. I WOULD HAVE SOME NOLVA ON HAND JUST IN CASE YOU START TO FEEL GYNO. GOOD LUCK ON THE CYCLE BRO! M18  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 371 |
You should definitely get your BF% down before using so much test because you will problem further side effects at that body fat and weight. You should do cardio 4-5 times per week for 20-30 minutes per day do get rid of fat. During a cycle do cardio 3 times per week for 20 minutes to lose fat without losing muscle. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1976 |
I disagree 18% is not that high a level to have, especially at 300lbs! That is way average. With the proper diet you can drop the bf and increase lean body mass. Take clomid 3 wks after last injection of sustanon or even before this period if you want to start bringing up HPTA to normal levels quicker. ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 4 |
I am really nervous about Gyno. Is this a high risk cycle? I have arimidex and nolva and clomid. When should I take these, if any? Thanks for the input!! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 371 |
The arimidex at 1/2 tab EOD will be enough to prevent any estro gyno. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 153 |
If this is your first cycle, yu dont need to go so high with the sus....you can get great results on 250 mgs a week on first cycle....save some for next time ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 4 |
Thanks STATECHAMP!! Do I need to take the Arimidex from the start of the cycle or just if I feel the Gyno starting to happen? Also, do you think my 1st cycle is too much? I thought your first cycle is the one you want to hit good because your receptors. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 371 |
I agree with leviathon that you may be using too much. You would do fine with 500mg for 4 weeks then 250mg for 4 weeks. Or if you want more dramatic gains then go with 500mg for 8 weeks. 250mg/week would also yield good gains but not as much as 500 per week. You should begin the arimidex at the beginning of week 2-3 or when you start to see a lot of water retention or gyno. It depends on how much aRIMIDEX YOU HAVE ON HAND. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Novice
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I was under the impression that Sus was not a big risk for water retenrion and especially Gyno. Is this not true? Will the pill eod condradict any of the muscle gains from the Sus? Your help is appreciated!! | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1976 |
Sustanon carries the same potential as any other form of esterified test. It is not the test that will cause the gyno or water retention it is when you have high levels of estrogen in your system, which unfortunately comes hand in hand with high test levels. This can also be caused by other aromatizing drugs. Although deca will not convert to estrogen it will still cause water retention and has the tendency to cause gyno which cannot be stopped but aided with the use of winny. If you do not wish to limit water retention and other side effects of steroids then use an anti estrogen. Try getting nolva or armidex with armidex being the better but more expensive choice. Peace [This message has been edited by The_Iron_Game (edited February 23, 2001).] |
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posted February 22, 2001 08:05 PM