x
Almost there! Please complete this form and click the button below to gain instant access.
EliteFitness.com FREE Email Series: How You Can Use Winstrol, Masteron, HGH, and Testosterone for a Perfect, Muscular Physique!
- -
We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe.
- -
  Elite Fitness Bodybuilding, Anabolics, Diet, Life Extension, Wellness, Supplements, and Training Boards
   Anabolic Discussion Board
  Waaaaaaah, they use steroids- they're fake!

Post New Topic  
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

Author Topic:   Waaaaaaah, they use steroids- they're fake!
Mr H

Moderator

Posts: 1799
From:Emerald City, OZ
Registered: Feb 2000

posted February 22, 2001 01:41 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


And after you see these "fake" bodies that were made through the use of steroids- take a look at those "fake" lives of cancer and AIDS patients who use steroids to save their lives.

--------------------------------


The Adonis Complex
by Mike Chessler

Perfect men-men with thick hair, flawless skin, bulging muscles, and six-pack abs-are taking over the world. They're everywhere: in the movies, on TV, on the covers of magazines. Depending on where you live, you might even see one in the flesh once in a while. It's enough to make a regular Joe feel like a regular schmoe.

And that is exactly what's happening, according to Harrison Pope, Jr., MD or PhD co-author of The Adonis Complex: The Secret Crisis of Male Body Obsession (The Free Press, 2000.) and professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School in Cambridge, MA.

"Men are getting a dose of the same medicine that women have been taking for years. They are seeing impossible images of male perfection in photographs and magazines, and being told that this is what they have to look like," according to Pope. The result, he says, is that men are feeling more inadequate than ever.


A Disorder of Our Own

We know that looking at those unhealthily skinny, airbrushed-within-an-inch-of their-lives models in fashion magazines have given rise to eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia in women. Now men have something they can call their own: the Adonis Complex. Pope and his colleagues coined the term "Adonis Complex" to include a number of different male body image obsessions. In Greek mythology, Adonis was a half-human/half-god who represented the ideal of male beauty (he was so fine that the goddesses Aphrodite and Persephone got in a cat fight over him.)

A number of factors have contributed to the rise of the Adonis Complex, but chief among them is the advent of steroids. "Steroids have given us a distorted, chemically-induced idea of what men should look like," he says. In spite of the serious health risks posed by steroids and the fact they are illegal and banned by all major sporting leagues, their use is widespread.


Chicks Don't Dig It

Ironically, many-perhaps even most-of these intimidating images of male perfection aren't even real, Pope says, but "drug-induced." And it's not just those cartoonishly huge wrestlers who are on steroids, he says. Most of those guys on the covers of health and fitness magazines are using steroids as well.

"There are limits to muscularity and leanness," says Pope, who believes that an alarmingly high number of male fitness models are getting an illegal "juice boost."

Studies by Pope and others have shown that while men think women prefer very muscular guys, in reality most women find big muscles unattractive almost to the point of being repulsive. In fact, most women preferred to cuddle up to a more average physique.


Another Thing to Worry About

The most extreme version of the Adonis Complex is Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD). Men with BDD are obsessive about their appearance, often fixating on one aspect of it. Hair tops the list of body obsessions. Other big issues include muscularity, chest size, penis size, and body fat. Men with BDD may constantly check themselves in the mirror, work out compulsively, or avoid situations that require them to take their shirts off in public. One man with BDD, interviewed in The Adonis Complex, described spending over an hour every morning trying to style his hair just right.

Most men who have BDD know it, but feel powerless to do anything about it. They are usually expert at hiding it from the people closest to them. Breaking the cycle involves therapy (Pope recommends cognitive behavioral therapy, which is specifically geared towards changing specific behaviors). Anti-depressants may also be prescribed.


Get Over It

Of course, BDD is an extreme example of men being tormented by unrealistic body image. Many more men, however, suffer from milder versions of the Adonis Complex. If you or a guy you care about is driven to unhealthy behaviors in the pursuit of a buff bod, consider the following suggestions.

Don't buy into the media images around you.
Remember that many of the super-muscular male bodies you're seeing are just products of drugs.
Know that a vast industry profits from making you feel insecure about your body.
Masculinity isn't defined just by the way you look.
Most importantly, know that nothing is more attractive than self-confidence.


Click Here to See the Profile for Mr H   Click Here to Email Mr H     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Slopain

Guru

Posts: 5296
From:Yo Aunties Pad
Registered: Jan 2000

posted February 22, 2001 01:44 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


I hope more people listen to that and become more average, that will make us look even better in comparrison! <looking in mirror and fixing golden blonde highlighted locks of hair>

------------------
- If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people. -

For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board)
Another fine board: Anabolic Fitness


Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message    UIN: 71360584   Reply w/Quote
anabolic24/7

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 364
From:TN
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 22, 2001 01:55 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


quote:
Studies by Pope and others have shown that while men think women prefer very muscular guys, in reality most women find big muscles unattractive almost to the point of being repulsive. In fact, most women preferred to cuddle up to a more average physique.

Ohhh Reeeeaallllyyy !!!!



Click Here to See the Profile for anabolic24/7   Click Here to Email anabolic24/7     Edit/Delete Message    UIN: 107668212   Reply w/Quote
Geared

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 200
From:
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 22, 2001 01:56 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Guess i have a disorder, but for the record i don't do this for chicks... I do this for me and me only!! As for looking in the mirror yeah i do and damn do i like what i see!! As for being drug induced, yeah but i have spent countless hours, blood, sweat and pain building my body which in turn gives me self confidence!! What you have read is just another average or less than average guy pissed off cause some buff stud just screwed his wife or girlfriend or both whichever the case may be...


Click Here to See the Profile for Geared     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Magic11

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 218
From:IN A GYM SOMEWHERE, USA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted February 22, 2001 01:56 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Damn what a great article. I would love to elaborate on what how great but i need to get to the gym, and look in the mirror. I think im getting fat. HHEEHEHE

oh wait is that a hair out of place......

hehehehehee


Click Here to See the Profile for Magic11   Click Here to Email Magic11     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Statechamp

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 322
From:
Registered: Feb 2001

posted February 22, 2001 02:11 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


If you have ever tried to read through that book and not had the overwhelming feeling of ripping it apart and burning it then I commend you.

It has to be the most contemptuous piece of propaganda I have read in a while.

------------------
For Information on Injections and Syringes:

Great Information on Injections and Syringes


Click Here to See the Profile for Statechamp   Click Here to Email Statechamp     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Big Buck

Freak

Posts: 2079
From:Diego, Cali
Registered: May 2000

posted February 22, 2001 02:15 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


My name is Big Buck, and I have BDD, it's ok to admit it guys....LMFAO!!!


Click Here to See the Profile for Big Buck   Click Here to Email Big Buck     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
MP5

Freak

Posts: 2073
From:your nightmares
Registered: Feb 2000

posted February 22, 2001 02:20 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Okay guys...Adios! I am done lifting. I knew I had a mental problem. No more weights for me, just liquor, cigarettes, and TV. Nice knowing all of you. I am going to beat this dis-order.

------------------


Click Here to See the Profile for MP5     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
BRICK

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 173
From:in the hills
Registered: Sep 2000

posted February 22, 2001 02:24 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


im definitely going to quit working out now.


Click Here to See the Profile for BRICK   Click Here to Email BRICK     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Lift Or Die

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 171
From:Chicago, IL
Registered: Nov 2000

posted February 22, 2001 02:48 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


I'm sick of hearing about disorders written by people that have no clue how to get in shape. God forbid I have a disorder that makes me try to improve my body and health. Perhaps the people that write this crap should take a walk into their local McDonald's and re-evaluate their point of view.

Eating pizza, hamburgers and drinking beer is easy. It doesn't take any special motivation to sit in front of the TV all night. Nobody will notice or pay attention to an overweight person that walks by them. Now take a big muscular guy that walks by and people take notice. Most are awestruck or envious when they see veins running down arms that look like garden hoses underneath the skin.


Click Here to See the Profile for Lift Or Die   Click Here to Email Lift Or Die     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
GLP

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 540
From:columbus,ohio,usa
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 22, 2001 03:16 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


I dont lift weights just so girls will like me. Started lifting to respect myself. Got picked on alot in middle school and had my ass kicked alot now I have found a few of those assholes and made them my bitch. That alone is worth it! Besides what else would I do.


Click Here to See the Profile for GLP   Click Here to Email GLP     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
pittbull2

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 187
From:Sulphur La.USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted February 22, 2001 03:37 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Thats it I'm sending my wife out to get ice cream with cookies & cream and hot dogs I'm going to do a 12 week cycle of cookies & cream & hot dogs and send these egg heads a before and after picture so they can show everyone the perfect slob and have a vote from all the women nation wide .


Click Here to See the Profile for pittbull2     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
X-Man

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 522
From:
Registered: Aug 2000

posted February 22, 2001 03:42 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


we're all sick boys, we need help, lets change elite fitness to a therapy group so we can all help each other, heh heh


Click Here to See the Profile for X-Man   Click Here to Email X-Man     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
inver

Novice

Posts: 9
From:
Registered: Feb 2001

posted February 22, 2001 03:48 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Hey Guys,

Am I obsessive about training? Fuck yea. But what ir really comes down to is that bodybuilders want to achieve exceptional physical development is a world that overall accepts mediocity. If I wanted to be the best businessman, they would say I was ambitious; if I wanted to be the best diver in the world, they would say i was driven; but bodybuilding is viewed only as a narcassistc thing.

I like the fact that I am solid, strong and look good. One of my co-workers rags on me (good naturedly)- but when he needed some advise on dropping some blubber; then he respectfully (almost sheepishly) asked me about it. And, in the end, he had zero will power and went back to eating shit and adding more fat. So in the end, he was the one who lost out not me. Ultimately, it was not that important to him. Fine, let him get fat in front of his playstation 2.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to look like the guys in the magazines. You have to aim high to accomplish anything. But you know, bodybuilding is a fringe element and it makes for good, fraeky headlines.


Click Here to See the Profile for inver   Click Here to Email inver     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Hugh Gellatts

Elite Bodybuilder

Posts: 1155
From:
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 22, 2001 03:55 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


The funny thing is that I've been accused of having "Adonis Complex" by people who excercise more than me but don't get the results.


Click Here to See the Profile for Hugh Gellatts   Click Here to Email Hugh Gellatts     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
hardrock

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 205
From:minnesota
Registered: Mar 2000

posted February 22, 2001 04:05 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


For girls? Hell no! Thats just an added bonus. I started working out a year after high school, I was 6'1" 160 lbs. In two years I was same height and weighed 200lbs. naturally. Talk about good for the self esteem! I didn't decide to juice till 2 years after that. I don't tell my friends to juice(they're scared anyway) It's just something I like. Plain and simple; DON'T FORCE YOUR OPINIONS ON OTHER PEOPLE! let them become educated and decide for themselves. Thats why this country is so fucked up. Everyones gotta be in your personal business.


Click Here to See the Profile for hardrock   Click Here to Email hardrock     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Frackal

Freak

Posts: 2382
From:THE VOID
Registered: Sep 2000

posted February 22, 2001 04:55 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


What a fucking jackass.


Click Here to See the Profile for Frackal   Click Here to Email Frackal     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Fish

Elite Bodybuilder

Posts: 790
From:Indianapolis, In USA
Registered: May 2000

posted February 22, 2001 05:02 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


quote:
Originally posted by Frackal:
What a fucking jackass.

This was my thought too.

------------------
SIZE MATTERS MOST

"Obsession is passion. Use it. Make it your strength." -by Puc


Click Here to See the Profile for Fish   Click Here to Email Fish     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
The_Iron_Game

Olympian

Posts: 1958
From:
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 22, 2001 05:10 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Im as fake as a 2 cent whore


Click Here to See the Profile for The_Iron_Game     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
apbt549

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 51
From:fl
Registered: Jan 2001

posted February 22, 2001 05:17 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


i am with geared i do it for myself .and nobody else .just has fake as inplants


Click Here to See the Profile for apbt549   Click Here to Email apbt549     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
BigAndy69

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 95
From:Toronto, Canada
Registered: Jan 2001

posted February 22, 2001 05:24 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


quote:
Originally posted by Hugh Gellatts:
The funny thing is that I've been accused of having "Adonis Complex" by people who excercise more than me but don't get the results.

I remember reading in a mag that Harrison Pope actually trains 6 times a week and 1h and a half each time. This guy despises BodyBuilders, and if you ask me, he is the one who's sick. Talk about irony.


Click Here to See the Profile for BigAndy69   Click Here to Email BigAndy69     Edit/Delete Message    UIN: 40126848   Reply w/Quote
Sizedoesmatter

Cool Novice

Posts: 47
From:
Registered: Sep 2000

posted February 22, 2001 05:31 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged



Inver, good post. Who the hell wants to look like the average guy??? Not me! I want to stand out and look better than a room full of average guys. Average just ain't good enough!

Most of my life I was the skinny guy. Now, i'm one of the big boys. If they want to call it a disorder, then fine with me. I'd rather be a big mofo with a disorder than a skinny mofo with a disorder.

And whats that total BS about most women not liking men with big muscles??? Give me a F-ING break!

Sounds like more anti-gear propaganda to me!


Click Here to See the Profile for Sizedoesmatter     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
ItalianSweetness

Elite Bodybuilder

Posts: 723
From:NY
Registered: Feb 2000

posted February 22, 2001 05:38 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


funny post H. My ex girlfriend would say "go shoot your steroids some more, you're all fake" when we used to argue. She used to get to me so much my saying that you have no idea. Here i am working my ass off, going to the gym sometimes twice a day and she's gonna tell me I'm fake.....SoundS like a hippocrate to me BECAUSE SHE'S THE ONE THAT WANTED ME TO GET HER BREAST IMPLANTS!!

------------------
~~~~~~~In order to look UNIQUE.....you have to eat UNIQUE.~~~~~~~


Click Here to See the Profile for ItalianSweetness   Click Here to Email ItalianSweetness     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Flexx

Cool Novice

Posts: 20
From:Dixie
Registered: Jan 2001

posted February 22, 2001 05:46 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


I work out for me and nobody else. Started out physical therapy for knee surgery and haven't quit since, that was in 1987. Girls are just an added bonus. I love walking in to a club with my bro's from the gym and women staring at me in front of their fat out of shape guys. My current girl loves to rub my chest and stare at it. If this is a disorder then I'm glad to have it and hope there is no cure!!!!!

------------------
Nothing worth having comes easy.


Click Here to See the Profile for Flexx   Click Here to Email Flexx     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
BigJay81

Guru

Posts: 5262
From:LIFT UNTIL YOU DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Registered: Jan 2000

posted February 22, 2001 05:58 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Later that day the composer of that article was eaten by a very large person, First he was stabbed many times with a cannon"18gauge", and then whiped clean with rubing alcohol. Then he was clean to eat. I deceided I was getting small and needed a pick me up to bring my weight back up what a better substance for protein then that yuppy lean writter.
HHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
BigJay was full and had much energy to go and lift now, Until he was in his final set of squats and saw some stick boy drinking a coke and eating chips in the lounge of the gym and He Snapped, Dinner Time!
The things I will do to try and get big I will allways feel small, LOL
Fuck this idiot in the ear with a big fat flag pole and send him to Houston for JohnnyO"

Whats the bet whoever wrote this weighs 150lbs and is 5'8" tall?

------------------

Prospice tibi - ut Gallia, tu quoque in tres partes dividaris.
Lift
Until You Die!!!!!!!!

For Information on Injections and Syringes:
Great Information on Injections and Syringes


Click Here to See the Profile for BigJay81   Click Here to Email BigJay81     Edit/Delete Message    UIN: 84582721   Reply w/Quote
Mr H

Moderator

Posts: 1799
From:Emerald City, OZ
Registered: Feb 2000

posted February 22, 2001 06:02 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Italian, I here ya bro!

My girlfriend doesn't mind at all, she actually promotes it

Her friend however- a girl who argues that "there is a god because one day we were smoking pot in my car and a cop drove passed us and we started praying to god to make him leave us alone and he left us alone, so therefore fuck Darwin and his theory" who also WANTS breast implants who also DOES ecstacy, smokes and smokes pot- doesnt go to college and works as a stock girl at a kids clothing store- thinks they're wrong.

------------------


Click Here to See the Profile for Mr H   Click Here to Email Mr H     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Saizen

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 252
From:Toronto, CA
Registered: Jul 2000

posted February 22, 2001 06:30 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


LMAO @Big Buck,
Ok, I will try it my girlfriend is holding my hand as I do this...here goes, Hi... -sniff, sniff- my name is...-sob, sob, siffle sniffle- Saizen...and...and...and...I...I -sniff- HAVE BDD !!!!

Oh yeah my better-half is sooooooo disgusted by my bulging muscle that she personally started saucing ways back. hmmmm know that I think of I guess she should join BDD anonymous as well coz she's a juice monger too.


Click Here to See the Profile for Saizen   Click Here to Email Saizen     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Daeo

Elite Bodybuilder

Posts: 814
From:
Registered: May 2000

posted February 22, 2001 06:37 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


I feel so dirty. But who knows. Maybe there is someone out there that will love us

------------------

The Other Board.


Click Here to See the Profile for Daeo   Click Here to Email Daeo     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Spunky

Olympian

Posts: 1832
From:USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted February 22, 2001 06:45 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


we are "Products of drugs." ?? Since when do you sit on your ass and stick a needle in u a couple times a week and get big?


Click Here to See the Profile for Spunky   Click Here to Email Spunky     Edit/Delete Message    UIN: 101511773   Reply w/Quote
Big Johnson

Amateur Bodybuilder

Posts: 207
From:CALIFORNIA
Registered: Feb 2001

posted February 22, 2001 06:55 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


quote:
Studies by Pope and others have shown that while men think women prefer very muscular guys, in reality most women find big muscles unattractive almost to the point of being repulsive. In fact, most women preferred to cuddle up to a more average physique.

MY OWN STUDIES HAVE YIELDED VERY DIFFERENT RESULTS.

------------------


Click Here to See the Profile for Big Johnson   Click Here to Email Big Johnson     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote
Tomo

Pro Bodybuilder

Posts: 341
From:
Registered: Oct 2000

posted February 22, 2001 09:28 PM

Staff Use Only: IP: Logged


Fuck him-- I'm juicing and working out- while he sits at home and plays with himself-tomo


Click Here to See the Profile for Tomo   Click Here to Email Tomo     Edit/Delete Message      Reply w/Quote

All times are ET (US)

Post New Topic  
Hop to:

�2016 EliteFitness.com. All rights reserved.