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JohnnyD

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posted February 22, 2001 01:51 AM

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Here is the link to the thread on my board.
I psoted a pic of the lab test this guy sent me. I'm not sure how to read this thing.
He calims they are only 5mg.
I'm a little worried since i"m using them next cycle, but not convinced still. This could jsut be some fake test and bull shit rumor. Tell me what you guys think
http://www.mmxbodybuilding.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=1&topic=802

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Vovan

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posted February 22, 2001 03:07 AM

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looks like it's not a complete bullshit...

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posted February 22, 2001 11:57 AM

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bump for opinions of this lab report
Slopain
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Personally I'm on these now and getting good results, so I find this very hard to believe, but I'm not an expert at lab reports, so does this look fishy?
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Slopain

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posted February 22, 2001 12:07 PM

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I have seen a few lab reports (admitedly not even close to an expert) and they have never read like this. Personal experience of myself, E2, and many other non-biased people have great results with two a day - that would mean 10mg of dbol?? bullshit.

Ill let gymratsd or someone with more knowledge take a look at it and give a more proffesional opinion.

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posted February 22, 2001 12:16 PM

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bump for gymrat

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GymRatSD

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posted February 22, 2001 12:18 PM

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Here's the problem I see with these results:

Under "Sample Preparation and Analysis Conditions", it says, "...a weighted portion of a composite of ground tablets..."

If I were doing the testing, I would grind ONE tablet to test at a time to determine the quantitative analysis. I don't understand why whomever did the testing they did it the way they did.

Also, it only says "Notes: Dianabol ~5 mg/tab (also contains niacinimide)", yet says nothing about the results of the testing. And if they did true quantitative testing, they should know more than ~5 mg/tab. The "~" means "about".

I have serious problems with these results.


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posted February 22, 2001 12:21 PM

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think it's a bunch of propaganda sent by another Mexican steroid manufacturer....but who knows


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GymRatSD

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posted February 22, 2001 12:22 PM

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Also, looking at the test results further, it looks more like a qualitative test, not quantitative. The actual results only note the drug found and not the quantity of the drug per tablet.

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Corleone

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posted February 22, 2001 12:28 PM

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gymrat- what's the difference between a qualitative test and a quantitative test?

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posted February 22, 2001 12:32 PM

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I'm going to try them next month, so I will let you guys know how it goes.

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posted February 22, 2001 12:39 PM

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Qualitative = "What is it?"

Quantitative = "How much of it is there?"

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Corleone

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posted February 22, 2001 12:47 PM

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So what would your conclusion be:
This is a real test not done very well
This is a fake test

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posted February 22, 2001 12:56 PM

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I think it could be a real lab result for a qualitative test, but we are missing the results for the quantitative part. The results will be more accurate than "~5 mg/tab".

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posted February 23, 2001 10:20 AM

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Here is what I don't like about this Lab Analysis...no address or official heading. That is ALWAYS on any analysis, at least San Rafael. Also, there isn't a description of the product tested. How do we know this is even Ref-Tabs? This is a legit lab analysis from a buddy of mine...

http://www.alternativenutrition.net/images/cem1.jpg

You can clearly see the difference between the two.

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posted February 23, 2001 10:43 AM

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Johnny thanks for the unbiased info about that. Id have to agree with Gymrat-it doesnt look like enough info. Also lots of good anecdotal info from users.
DB has said that Loeffler has put these out WITHOUT legit SAGAR #'s-meaning that they arent formally approved by the ministry of health.

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